Right-Wing Star Andy Ngo Exits Quillette After Damning Video Surfaces

[o_O.Q]

vivster said:

TonsofPuppies said:

Don't flatter yourself. You people on the far left aren't any better than the far right ones. In fact, I would argue that most of the time, you are worse, because your side of the political spectrum is far more insidious with their means of attaining their goals. At least the alt-right nutjobs are honest about their intentions and that makes them easy to spot and dismiss.

If the right was honest about their motives nobody would vote for them. They wouldn't have to hide themselves from the law because speaking their motives out loud would be breaking the law. Their hate against minorities and anyone who isn't white is well documented and an open book for anyone who knows how to read. Something their supporters apparently can't.

o_O.Q said:

"Calling the freedom in the US absolute is nothing but absolutely laughable"

good thing that this was not said, but of course some people can't deal in nuance, all they have is absolutes, so the minute someone disagrees with them they have to jump from one absolute to another

the most ironic part of this is that its usually people who claim to b trying to "break down binaries" lol

"How can they have freedom of speech when it infringes on people's freedom to not be killed by right wing maniacs? "

can you give an example of andy ngo or any of the other people in the video expressing incitement for violence?

"I have yet to hear from an antifa extremist to commit mass murder in a nazi concert, or any concert for that matter. Yet mass murder committed by the right seems to flourish."

a sensible way to view the world of course, all of the bad people are in that group over yonder that I disagree with, if we could just deal with them somehow the world would be perfect because my people are good and just

never mind that antifa have communist ideology at their core, an ideology that is responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people in the 20th century

"I won't stand for equating deliberately inciting violence against oneself with the mass murder of innocents. And yes, I will always prefer an asshole who wants to be beaten up being beaten up by the people who he wants to be beaten up by over innocents being mowed down indiscriminately."

what does any of this even mean?

"His intent was to be hurt"

evidence?

"can you give an example of andy ngo or any of the other people in the video expressing incitement for violence?"

He's a supporter and friend of hate groups. Why would you single out this video? Is there any doubt in your mind that hate groups are all about violence? Stop willfully ignoring the big picture.

"never mind that antifa have communist ideology at their core, an ideology that is responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people in the 20th century"

Talk about talking in absolutes. Also great whataboutism. We don't have to talk about the bad guys because the other guys might be also bad! Anything to distract from the currently discussed problem. I don't support all of the antifa's ideologies and I definitely don't support any kind of violent protest unless it's the last option. We're not at a point yet where violence is the last option. If moderates are not going to protest against extremists it takes other extremists to fight against the steady push of the political spectrum. Why are you even afraid of those "communists"? The US is so far to the right of the political spectrum that they won't even make a dent. Or are you afraid they might succeed in aligning the spectrum to the center?

"what does any of this even mean?"

It means that we shouldn't equate systematic unprovoked mass murder with singular instances of provoked violence.

"evidence?"

Common sense. Look up "propaganda".

"He's a supporter and friend of hate groups."

the "hate group" I saw in the video had two black guys, andy a gay asian and women

doesn't that kind of trigger some kind of alarm in you?

so you think this group is going around beating on minorities or talking bad about minorities with minorities?

you do understand that simply throwing a label at someone doesn't mean that the label is validated?

or is it that you just think the black guys in the video and andy ngo are just stupid and don't understand the motives of the white men who are present?

"Why would you single out this video?"

the video is being used as evidence that a "hate" group was planning an attack

when I actually watched the video to assess the situation myself it became obvious very very fast that the initial claim of them planning to initiate the violence was a lie

I also noticed quite clearly that this "hate" group has quite a bit of minorities and women

"Talk about talking in absolutes."

it is a fact that antifa formed out of communist groups

"We don't have to talk about the bad guys because the other guys might be also bad!"

in the video who was expected to initiate the attack? would that group not be a more pressing issue?

"I don't support all of the antifa's ideologies and I definitely don't support any kind of violent protest unless it's the last option. We're not at a point yet where violence is the last option."

ok do you have any evidence that this group in particular is attacking minorities? which is supposedly what antifa is fighting against?

and i'm not talking about "the alt right" whatever that even means, I'm talking about the group i see in this video

all i've ever seen from this group is fighting against antifa

"Why are you even afraid of those "communists"? The US is so far to the right of the political spectrum that they won't even make a dent."

you just answered the question all within that same quote

"Or are you afraid they might succeed in aligning the spectrum to the center?"

which entails what? 

"It means that we shouldn't equate systematic unprovoked mass murder with singular instances of provoked violence."

lol systemic? can you describe the systems you are referring to?

"Common sense. Look up "propaganda"."

I'm asking for evidence from THIS GROUP 

"If the right was honest about their motives nobody would vote for them. They wouldn't have to hide themselves from the law because speaking their motives out loud would be breaking the law. Their hate against minorities and anyone who isn't white is well documented and an open book for anyone who knows how to read. "

lol did I really just read that everyone on the right is a racist in your view?

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 30 August 2019