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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

How are ya able to live like this, to escape the raw deal of working til you die? Please teach me your ways! Atm I don't have to do anything, but that wont last forever, my parents will eventually kick me out or die.

This could be a very long post, but I'll try to make it as short as possible.

Ultimately fate/destiny/luck (call it whatever you want) may change from person to person but there is common ground here that does apply to everyone.

The first thing you need to know is that you are a SLAVE to the system. And by you, I mean everybody (Myself included at first but not anymore). The system wants you to spend every dollar you have, through advertisement and peer pressure and also through brainwashing from birth. We are all taught from the beginning that we must go to school for at least 12 years (from 6 to 18) often more, then find a job, do what our boss tells us to do, go there for most of our life till we are 65 and then retire.

We are also told to marry, have kids and have a social life. All that brainwashing I explained plus this here, is a deadly combo that pretty much ensures you will be a slave for the rest of your life.

So the second thing you need to realize is what is objectively valuable in your life. If your answer is, marrying, having kids, a job and a social life then don't bother reading any further cause your happiness is to be a slave to the system and there is nothing in this post that can help change your life in a way that will matter to you.

If like me, you come to the realization that what matters is your TIME and FREEDOM then perhaps this post can help. In this capitalistic world we are all competing for 2 things. The first one is obviously MONEY and most people know this but the second thing, most people don't even realize they are competing for it and therefore don't really try and as a result, are poor of that thing, and I'm talking about TIME. Even people with lots of money don't realize this and what they do is work even more to make even more money and those people become addicted to simply making more money and therefore end up slaves to their addiction. No time for them to enjoy what they have cause they must work hard, impress people, go to high society parties to meet important people, spend (waste) lots of money in expensive clothes cause you wanna look rich to impress important people. Important people that at the end of the day don't give a damn about you...

Me I value time and I am very rich of it. Literally the 24 hours of the day are mine which I really love and appreciate. I don't want to HAVE to do stuff, have to work, have to take care of kids after school, have to pick up the wife at her job cause it's the end of the day and she's done working, have to go to places to go to appointments etc... Anything that is an obligation, I hate.

So I managed to organize my life in such a way that I don't have to do stuff anymore. So the first thing (and you must realize this is not for everybody, I mean most people couldn't stand this) is to NOT have a wife, NOT have kids, NOT have a job, NOT have social obligations of any sort etc.

To be clear I used to have a job cause I had no money when I was 18 and if you are starting in life, unless your parents give you a substantial amount of money, you will have to find a job to make money. But the difference with the rest of the world is that you will save every last penny of it. Doesn't matter how, stay at your parents to save on rent, don't go out on week-ends, don't go on vacations, don't go have a drink with your buddies etc. Cause all that stuff will cost you money and the more money you spend, the more dependent on the system you are and the less free you are.

Most people live paycheck to paycheck, are incapable of saving a single dollar and actually live in debt up to their necks, those people are total slaves to the system, they MUST work, no choice here, all their lives.

Me, to be clear I'm not rich, but I spent almost nothing and saved everything, month after month. 20 years later I got my own place that I own, zero debt, and passive income that is enough for me. I never tried to become rich, to make lots of money cause I don't think I have the talent to get there so I brought my spending to the bare minimum. No kids, no wife, no social life that makes me waste money, no car cause I live in a city so everything is easily accessible by foot, no wasted money in gym clubs cause by walking everywhere I exercise for free etc...

Most people don't realize the ton of money they can save by NOT following the standard model that society brainwashes them with (wife, kids, family, social life etc) So here i am, in my early 40's and completely free, lazy and spending my time between Netflix, Youtube, video games, forums like this one, walks outside when the weather is nice and so on.

I'm free, I have ZERO obligations and most importantly I love being free.

This was a very interesting post.  Thank you for sharing.    I have to say I envy you a little bit, but I am also happier that I have the life I have.  I tried going the early retirement route about 13 years ago, and I got a good corporate job that would have lead to a very high salary (much higher than I have now), and I was planning to go the early retirement route much like you have described for yourself.  The thing is though that I could not do it more than a few years.  I really hated the corporate life and I was growing more and more depressed the longer that I stayed at the job.  I had to work long hours just to move ahead, and since my goal was freedom, I was giving too much of my present freedom in order to have total future freedom.

Right now I am at a job that pays a lot less, but I have a lot of autonomy.  That is what I have found works for me.  I also have a wife and daughter.  I prefer to be married and be at my current job than be alone and have total autonomy.  I am debt free, including my house being paid off, but I haven't managed to make the transition to live off of passive income yet.  This is just a way of saying that I totally get where you are coming from, but I realized that I had to go a somewhat different route.

I can also say that I used to describe myself as lazy, like yourself, but I eventually realized that what I need is work that gives me a lot of autonomy.  I need a lot more "freedom" than the average person.  I have to be able to do things according to my own plan.  I also have a high need for novelty and even if I enjoy doing something for a while, eventually I will get bored with it and want to move on to something else.  So I used to think I was lazy, but now I realize that it is more that I have a high need for autonomy and novelty.  Heh, not sure what to do with that yet.