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Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

Well, speaking as an athiest, I use my conscience to determine what I think is right or wrong. You don't need religion to have empathy and compassion.

I don't think people need religion per se to have empathy and compassion, but people certainly need a culture that promotes these things.

Otherwise you end up with Chicago or Baltimore!

A religious culture does not necessarily promote empathy and compassion.  Likewise a secular culture does not necessarily not promote empathy and compassion.