| Azzanation said: You say ground clearance is to save lives.. well I disagree with it especially since it doesn't explain the enforced rules of many other car mods etc. I learnt this the hard way when I was 21, I lowered my car professionally to the lowest limit Australia rules allowed, I was fined and was asked to raise my car because of my extractors hanged slightly lower than the chassis which made my entire car illegal to drive.. $800 later I had no choice. Was it a safety issue? My car was tested and was able to actually handle better than the standard cars off the production line and I never scrapped underneath. So more handling in Australia's terms is consider unsafe.. that makes no sense to me. |
Lowering a vehicle does change the center of gravity which results in better handling. - Not disputing that, it's just common basic physics.
But you are looking at it from a more selfish perspective rather than when said lowered vehicle has a collision with another.
| Azzanation said: Also doesn't explain why Neon lights are considered a safety issue, Tinting your windows too dark is a safety issue, having a loud exhaust pipe being a safety issue. I can name plenty of enforced rules Australia does that has no bearing on safety. Also If a licensed driver cannot tell the difference between Emergency lights to Neon lights under cars than maybe they shouldn't have a license and use our roads. We are not talking about replacing our brake light colours to green. They are pointless ground lights that only add to your visibility to others. So more visibility and handling is bad.. that's Australia's logic.. oh wait, its to fine innocent people. |
Neon lights being a safety issue I have already touched upon. So I won't repeat myself there... Go back and re-read my prior post/posts.
People were having red and blue neon lights flashing and confusing road drivers.
Tinting your windows too dark results in less visibility at night... But that's just common sense and most certainly a safety issue.
Loud exhaust isn't a safety issue per-say, it just adds to noise pollution.
| Azzanation said: So do you think any of the mentioned above is to save lives or to control people? I can tell you its all about controlling people. |
Nah. People ruined a good thing. - These laws don't exist in a vacuum, they only started to exist because people were being moronic and abusing various aspects. (I.E. Neon Lights.)
| Azzanation said: I understand you deal with car wrecks but blame the drivers not the cars. Its the exact same logic you are using on blaming guns instead of the killers. Both Cars and Guns can be used as weapons and cars are much more dangerous since they are tons of metal that can also take any idiot on the road to kill people. |
I blame both the drivers and cars.
Just like I blame gun related massacres on the guns and the individuals pulling the trigger.
| Azzanation said: Sooooo you say video games are not to blame in Australia because we don't have shootings.. so why the heck do we still ban and heavily sensor video games in Australia? Why cant I buy Hatred on Steam? We don't have Guns, but we still blame games for peoples actions. Give the government an inch and they take a mile. That point is exactly what happens. |
Has Censorship even been an issue since we revised the ratings?
But maybe you should have looked into the issue of "Hatred" on Steam. - It wasn't blocked because of the Australian Government or our rating system, it was blocked because the developer self-imposed the restriction.
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/06/hatred-is-now-region-locked-in-australia/
| Azzanation said: <SNIP> Now after reading all that, my point is that America has a culture issue not a gun issue. Because as Russia has been trying to change for the better, the criminals still get the guns.. and don't tell me the USA doesn't have a black market scene either. Its probably even worse than Russia. |
I would argue that America has a gun culture issue and a gun issue.
| Azzanation said: You keep comparing Australia to America. Just because Australia did it and it worked doesn't mean it will work in the US. When Guns were allowed in Australia, we had a very strong Western culture, that changed over the years, that's what really stopped the shootings, not removing guns. Also AUS doesn't have the same issues as the US as they have a huge black market scene, Gangs and the crime is much more different. End of the Day, if we don't change the culture than these crimes will continue to happen regardless if you remove things from the public. The blame game is easy when you don't like something but reality is its not the Gun that kills people, its the people that kill people. |
It's worked for other nations other than Australia, it works more often than it doesn't.
I haven't actually looked into the extensiveness of Russia's gun legislation, but maybe there is room for improvement?
The US having a black market is something they can work on.
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