| o_O.Q said: "Yes they can. ok, i'm waiting on that explanation "Other feelings like Pride, Gender and Fear are the same." ok, i'm waiting on that explanation |
Instead of me having to do it. Read this instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion
"Emotion is a mental state associated with the nervous system brought on by chemical changes variously associated with thoughts, feelings, behavioural responses, and a degree of pleasure or displeasure." - I.E. Dopamine is created when you are enjoying something, which is a reward, so you are more likely to do that activity again and thus helps drive feelings of pleasure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine
| o_O.Q said: "But just because you feel pride, love and so on... Doesn't mean God/Gods actually exists." prove it, you don't have any evidence that god has not imbued us with these characteristics |
Bit of a logical fallacy to assert that something that cannot be proven, fundamentally exists...
Again, the flying spaghetti monster has absolutely zero evidence supporting it's existence, doesn't mean it exists.
Thus, there is nothing to prove... As the burden of proof doesn't actually lay with me, it lays with the person asserting that their religious God exists.
It is the same concept that works in our rule of law, you can't just randomly point out a stranger and assert they went on a killing spree unless you have met that burden of proof.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
| Mr Puggsly said: Christianity was like a reform to the Jewish rules (does allow pork eating). Islam is something very different, something just awful. I'm not an expert but I've read the Koran, really gives you a better understanding why countries that embrace that religion suck. |
I don't actually disagree.
They are all cut from the same cloth... Islam is awful, but I would argue that Christianity and Judaism, heck all religions are awful... Because religious "rules" tend to be pushed onto the masses. - I mean Same-sex marriage wasn't a "thing" until recently in many parts of the world... Why? Mostly because of religious christian conservatives in the western world.
| mysteryman said: What do you do when you reach the limitations of the scientific method? When something is simply not testable? |
It's happened multiple times in history... The Scientific method for example couldn't explain how thunder and lightning occurred... So people chalked it up to various Norse Gods like "Thor".
But over time our understanding of the natural world improves... And we can thus build better tools, which then assists us in explaining the unexplainable.
In saying that... If we don't fundamentally understand something... It's not actually wrong or incorrect to just say "I don't know" rather than to assert a God (Which also has no evidence to support it's position!) exists.
In saying that, I am a hard-line Atheist, proponent of equality and equal rights and a big supporter of science and the scientific method and being logical... If those who lean on religious indoctrination fundamentally disagree with my perspectives, that is fine as well.
| mysteryman said: Likewise how do you determine right and wrong? |
Certainly not from a religious book full of pretty terrible stances that promotes mass murder (1 Chronicles 21), Genocide (Deuteronomy 3), Death to those who believe in other Religions/Gods (2 Kings 10:18-27), Slavery and selling our daughter into Slavery (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), Bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). - Granted that is all Old Testament, which many Christians will not follow unless it suits them (I.E. Leviticus against Homosexuality.)
But I could list some horrible stuff in the New Testament as well...
Not to mention that the New Testament is still binding to the Old Testament.
* “It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17 NAB)
* “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
So how do I determine right from wrong? How does anyone? Empathy, pain, fear... Devices that are driven by life experience, governed by chemical processes that I alluded to prior... Matt Dillahunty could probably explain it better than I can though.
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