Sony is focusing on Hard-Core Gamers for PS5

[PotentHerbs]

Azzanation said:

twintail said:

The PS5 is not for a niche hardcore audience, at least not how we understand it now. The simple fact that it will have PS4 BC should already tell you that an entire gen of software (hardcore and casual) will be available day 1.

All comsoles next gen will have BC so its not a stand out feature if its the standard.

I don't agree with censorship. I have made that clear in previous threads. But that doesn't change the very minimal impact it has on Sony. It hasn't affected PS4 sales, so why would it affect PS5 sales? You are more en within your right to buy Visual Novels on other platforms. It's a niche genre. And like indies, there isn't going to be an exodus of this type of game on PS consoles as long as Sony continues to have a sizable share of the market. Is this censorship for the sexualisation of minors going to stop you from ever buying a PS5?So from hurt them to a minor disappointment? So it is not a problem that is going to affect them. 

It might hurt, maybe not at a major cost but will wait and see. PS4 didnt suffer from censorship because it became a thing closer to the end of its life. PS5 will be launching with censorship in mind and where it can possibly hurt them is if there competitors advertise there games as uncut versions etc. It also depends how far Sony goes with the censorship. If major AAA games get affected by it or if its just visual novels etc. But we have seen DMC5 get censored and it wasnt welcomed by the community.

Yes i will not by a platform if the games get censored if i can buy the same game somewhere else which offers the uncut version.

PotentHerbs said:

Halo has seen a sales decline since the launch of Halo 3, Gears of War has been declining since the 2nd entry, which in comparison to Uncharted and GOW, have seen increases in sales for every major entry in the series. The GOW reboot boosted the franchise into 10+ Million territory, turning it into a juggernaught, not saving it from a decline. 

Bundles boosted UC4 sales for sure, but the same could be said about Halo 3's bundling, and only one of these franchises have sold 15+ Million for a single entry. I'm sure MS counted digital codes for Halo 4 sales like Sony has done for their titles. The user base of the Xbox didn't impact the original Halo at all, and it didn't help Halo: Reach sell more than Halo 3. You're also excluding titles like GT5 and TLOU in your comparison of 360/PS3 exclusive software. Uncharted already surpassed Gears in the PS360 era.

Its not far fetched to assume franchises like Uncharted, Horizon & TLOU will surpass Halo in popularity. These are franchises that can sell 15+ Million on the PS4. I wouldn't be surprised to see TLOU: PT.II sell more than 20 Million. Those Rare IP's are not juggernaughts at least in a commercial sense. Minecraft and Halo are the only juggernaught IP MS owns, and for the former, its a series created before the MS acquisition, and is available for every platform.

Would those games sell there figures if the PS4 was sitting on 40m consoles like the X1? If you half the sales there numbers sit roughly around the same.

Halo 4 went on to sell close to 10m copies. Not sure how thats a decline considering it wasnt heavily bundled like Halo 3.

Halo 5 went on to sell close to 5m copies on a platform half the size of the 360 so if the X1 had 90m consoles sold, expect close to 9m sales for Halo 5. These are assumptions however it can play a key roll in selling games.

My point still stands. Just because Mario 3D World sold little on the WiiU doesnt mean the IP is smaller. Takes one good entry to bring the figures back up on a successful console. Much like your point with GOW. Needed a reboot on a high selling system to reach its numbers.

Your point also doesnt make sense. Are you going to tell me Days Gone is bigger than Halo because it has outsold Halo 5? Haha come on now.

Also it doesnt matter who makes the game. The IP is still an IP. Star Wars changed hands to Disney and Star Wars hasnt shrunk in size, in fact its even more popular regardless of its reviews.

Who said anything about Days Gone? Its simply not far fetched to assume Horizon, TLOU & Uncharted will surpass Halo in popularity for the coming generation. These are titles that can sell upwards of 15+ Million, move hardware, garner critical acclaim, and are expanded upon in other forms of media. What more proof do you need?

Those sales figures show a decline in the Halo franchise lol. Can it do better? Sure. Will it do better? That's yet to be determined. And again, user base is not the only variable to consider when it comes to sales. Halo's popularity has been shrinking for years. A big factor to this is the COD franchise and the amount of multiplayer games in general. Halo used to the biggest FPS brand in gaming. Not anymore.

How come Halo 5 couldn't out sell Halo 2 despite the former having the advantage of a much larger user base? 

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 12 July 2019