Azuren said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Of course I know what I'm talking about. The events of 1, 2, and 3 wouldn't even make sense without details from almost all of the non-numbered games (Coded might be skipable). I'm not arguing that the numbered games wouldn't need the non-numbered ones to be understood. I'm arguing that they are spin-offs regardless because they are by my definition of spinoff. You just have no interest in understanding or respecting my point of view. You have failed to change my mind, but you might have had more luck had you at least tried to understand things from my perspective. I don't give a shit if they're spinoffs or not. You're hung up on that word but the point was never what to call the games, it was always that the way the story is presented is stupid. A particular thread of the story is told in the numbered games that ISN'T told in the non-numbered games, not even DDD, not in my view anyway. I think that has created problems for the average person understanding the plot and staying interested in the story. I've been waiting for the thread of the story continued in 3, and I'm frustrated by how they stretched it out with mandatory-to-play-to-understand-the-plot games that storywise could have just been flashbacks or subchapters in the numbered games.
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Okay, then explain how they're spin-offs. Oh wait. You can't, because not a single definition you've presented is observable in DDD, BBS, or CoM outside of the naming convention that you already admitted isn't what is driving your opinion.
Seriously, I've lost hope in properly discussing this with you because you're just stubbornly saying "Based on my definition" while also no giving a definition that supports your claims. And when you can't properly contest my claims that you're talking about things you don't actually know about, you try to deflect with a gatekeeping argument.
Just walk away or admit that you only call them spin-offs because of the naming convention.
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Just as pi-guy said, neither of us is probably wrong because we're each defining this in not so solid terms. As I've stated many times, I just don't care about the whole spinoff thing. I'm done talking to you now.
