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SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

" This should never, ever, ever, need to be pointed out to you again."

dishonestly evading straight answers on this topic doesn't make it logically consistent even though you may think so

"Gender is a function under a specific, given set (Human)."

now what I would say is that its simply a function of sex/biology but you have decided to throw that away, so what is gender derived from in your view?

I have so far heard that its simply clothing, is that your belief? that if I wanted to become a man then all i'd need to do is change up the clothing I wear?

why could I then not decide to invent some new clothing styles to represent a new gender I have created?

why couldn't I paste a horn to my head and call myself a unicorn?

You seem to be mistaking gender identity with gender expression.

Gender identity is the psychological self. What you feel.

Gender expression is the presentation of your gender.  Clothes are simply a part of that. 


Your unicorn example doesn't work because how does one feel like a unicorn?  To go back to my math analogy, a unicorn is again in a completely different set.  More to the fact, that set would technically be a zero given unicorns don't even exist.  Further, you chose an object to express or identify as rather than a gender.

But if you want to call yourself a unicorn, go for it.  They have My Little Pony cosplays and comic conventions all the time. Just recognize you are intentionally making a mockery out of people's legitimate psychological feelings and emotions which I shouldn't have to tell you is a pretty crass thing to do.

"You seem to be mistaking gender identity with gender expression."

for this context they are one and the same, because obviously the people around you can't perceive what is going on inside your head unless you express it right? or do you live on a remote island populated by psychics?

"Your unicorn example doesn't work because how does one feel like a unicorn?"

the same way this woman can feel like a cat in a woman's body?

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/22435-woman-says-she-s-a-cat-trapped-in-human-body-gender-identity-unknown

so you think she's crazy?

how does one feel like a female when they are in a male's body?

"To go back to my math analogy"

doesn't apply because you don't believe that biology has a place in discussion about gender, unless i'm wrong?

"Just recognize you are intentionally making a mockery out of people's legitimate psychological feelings and emotions"

i'm not, its a clarifying question because as i've said if biology is not where the differentiation is being made and instead we rely on what people identify as then this presents what i would think should be obvious problems

beyond that this is not an argument feelings do not determine reality, so why would someone's feelings matter in a discussion about reality? do you cut religious people this kind of slack?