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colafitte on 21 May 2019
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MasonADC said:
colafitte said:

And multiple ps4 games will too. What's your point then?.

And even agreeing with you on MK games in general, that's not enough to deny Sony games are reaching Nintendo home console games sales. 

There's an arrogance related to Nintendo sales that I don't get it this gen...

Nobody is saying Sony has surpassed Nintendo in this regard. Just that is getting closer and closer nearing Nintendo levels this Gen. 

And if it is not true. Name me which home console Nintendo games have sold more than 10M since 2012 so we can compare the number to Sony ones as today. And then how many have sold 15M or more. Let's put facts over the table and see what happens. 

What PS4 exclusive will/has reach 10 million at full price? The only one that has a chance is TLOU2. It was your question, so I'm not understanding what you mean by whats your point.

I agree that they are getting closer, but I disagree that they reached/enter Nintendo's level(as stated by the thread title). 

In terms of what has sold more than 15 or 10 million, it is weird to compare them for a system that is less than 2 and a half years old. At this point, ps4 didn't even get its first huge first party game in uncharted. Uncharted or TLOU might crawl to 20 million, but then we have switch games like MK8 or Smash that will reach even more than that. But good in their own regards, but not on equal footing. PS5 should solve that 

To be precise i said 15M at full price, not 10M but if you ask. Spiderman last year was really close. And what i meant is that you are saying Switch still has games to come that can sell 10+ or 15+ M sold and i tell PS4 it's the same, so what's the point in saying that then?

What an excuse using install base to say that Switch has an disadvantage...I expect all you saying this same thing in 2019 saying that the next Mario 3D, the next Zelda 3D, selling worse then being a complete failure in a few years because Switch will be twice the install base then.....We'll see what you say then, because name me a sequel or next game in the franchise in the same console that sold better than the previous one in Nintendo history. Again, if you can find it, please name it.

Since 2012 when WiiU started, Nintendo has had the next home console games reaching 10M or more:

- Mario Kart 8 WiiU + Mario Kart 8 DX Switch = around 20-25M shipped at the moment

- Super Mario Odyssey = around 15M shipped

- The Legend of Zelda WiiU+Switch = 14-15M shipped

- Super Smash Bros Ultimate = around 14M shipped

- Pokemon Let's Go = around 11M shipped

So i count 5 games.

Already launched games candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Splatoon 2 with around 9M shipped, maybe Super Mario Party 

Announced games yet to launch candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Pokemon Sword&Shield, Animal Crossing, maybe Super Mario Maker 2

If i count those you can add 3, 4, maybe 5 games in the next 2 years possibly.

Now compare to Sony since 2012:

- The Last of Us PS3+PS4 = 20M sold

- Uncharted 4 = 16M sold

- God of War = 11M sold

- Horizon Zero Dawn = more than 10M sold

- Spider-Man = probably close to 11-12M sold at least (9M sold before December last year)

That's 5 games too.

Already launched games candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Gran Turismo Sport 7'5M players, probably more than 6M sold (but if you don't want to count this, it's fair), Days Gone (recently launched but it's doing Horizon Zero Dawn numbers at launch)

Announced games yet to launch candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: The Last of Us Part II, Ghosts of Tsushima, maybe Death Stranding.

So maybe 3 o 4 more games in the next years coming to that milestone too.

So...., how is Sony studios not reaching Nintendo levels this last gen?? To me, the people saying no are just in denial mode....

Last edited by colafitte - on 21 May 2019