President Trump Signs Executive Order Protecting Free Speech On College Campuses | TIME

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sundin13 said:

EricHiggin said:

Victim complex? Did you already forget about your prior reply? Probably because you used the victim complex already and now your projecting it onto me. If there's no expectation then why are students asking for it and why did Trump listen and put it in writing? What's being asked for is a level playing field. Equality. Not sure why that's such an issue since it seems to be one of the main goals of the left today.

Tell me, if you went to a Uni in your area and said "I would like to speak about how much I like balloons for two hours at a University sponsored event", would you expect them to say yes? Assuming you are sane, the answer is probably no. Why is that? Because there is no universal right for a University sponsored platform. There is no expectation of universal access here. A Uni doesn't simply provide a platform to whoever asks, there are a number of factors which go into making the decision of who may partake. You are focusing on one of those (political leaning), however, in assuming true freedom, you have to similarly account for all of those. You cannot argue that freedom of speech should give those on the right a platform at a University without similarly arguing that freedom of speech should give literally everyone a platform at a University, no matter what they have to say (or don't have to say).

And in my opinion, that idea is incredibly ludicrous. 

"I would like to speak about how much I like balloons for two hours at a University sponsored event", would you expect them to say yes? Assuming you are sane, the answer is probably no."

yeah but that's you, you are irrelevant

but we see situations like this

and this 

where leftists are shutting down professors, writers and other speakers for simply having a different perspective(or at least one that isn't fucking stupid) and you don't think this is a problem?

"There is no expectation of universal access here."

this is incorrect... universities in general are expected to be places where students are exposed to differing perspectives on things... that's crucial in developing to be an intelligent tolerant individual who can interact with others in a civil logical manner

"University without similarly arguing that freedom of speech should give literally everyone a platform at a University, no matter what they have to say"

this distinction here is that people who are invited because they have a particular argument to make that is perceived as beneficial for people to have discussion over, obviously no one is saying that the end times preacher standing on the street corner deserves a 2 hour speaking engagement and i'm sure you understand that

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 25 March 2019