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fatslob-:O said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Holy cow, you need to read a dictionary. Probabilistic and deterministic are mutually exclusive ideas. Educate yourself. Quantum physics has no current deterministic model, so yes it does preclude any notion of 'destiny'. 

I think it is you that needs to be educated ... 

If you think the notion of your so called precious "quantum model" is absolute then it just shows how much more ignorant you can get. How do you reconcile the fact that quantum mechanics is currently incompatible with general relatively ? 

I can see you're the type of individual who is too lazy to do cursory research to correct a misapprehension so I'll simply throw it in your face.

prob·a·bi·lis·tic
/ˌpräbəbəˈlistik/
adjective
  1. based on or adapted to a theory of probability; subject to or involving chance variation.

See, I even made it bold and underlined for you.

No physicist on the planet agrees with your argument that because there isn't a unified theory that QM's effects, observations, and research are bunk. Keep digging yourself deeper into the ground though through fundamental ignorance.

OhNoYouDont said: 

Shifting goal posts changes nothing. Whether it's 5 years or 500, you'd be hard=pressed to convince anybody that racism is a worse outcome than a world war.

Welp, you heard it here folks! I assume you find it to be more palatable to have hundreds of millions of people from the 'inferior' races to be enslaved and robbed of their freedom instead rather than risking another world war or the holocaust to fight for the freedom of other human races ...

??? How did you go from racism to slavery? We're talking about the 1940s, not the 1800s here champ. Get in the right century at least.

OhNoYouDont said: 

This is basic consequentialism, has nothing to do with self-righteousness.

Your display in a lack of consideration for alternative thoughts or views makes me doubt this and leads me to suspect that your posts are rooted in nothing other than pure arrogance ... 

Which thought of yours have I not considered? I think I've responded to all of them...

OhNoYouDont said: 

Utilitarianism isn't necessarily contingent on time. Assessing Hitler's entirely life results in a net negative utility.

So fuck the courts, liberty, and progressivism am I right if it means the "highest amount of well-being among the greatest number of people" ? Well whatever that means I hope dearly for your sake where you can find a justification for the possibility in an alternate reality where European colonial powers along with Japan continue to enslave their conquered territories unabated for many decades to come ...

So now we've not only left the appropriate century, but we've gone to an entirely new millennium? All I can do is laugh at the futile attempt here.

OhNoYouDont said: 

I too think it's time for you to stop responding because you're intellectually bankrupt on this topic.

Says the guy who's close minded LOL ... 

Racism is more than just a social stigma. It's an economic and most importantly a political stigma but I'm not surprised that you lack a lot of foresight despite being so absolute ... 

I've entertained all of your thoughts and thoroughly refuted them. In what way is that closed-minded? You sound like you're simply upset that I do not agree with your sophomoric ideas on the subject.