| LittleSnake said: Why does smashing an egg on someone's head make him a hero? |
Because Fraser Anning isn't an Australian if he prescribes to racist, xenophobic, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, child abusing rhetoric.
Thus someone throwing some egg in his face is exactly what he deserves... And clearly with 1.3~ million votes to boot him out of parliament... Seems it's a common opinion.
Politicians being egged isn't a new thing here either... We have a history of it actually.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-19/100-years-of-political-eggings/10912526
When Julia Gillard was egged, she didn't smack a minor, she contained her composure.
| Cobretti2 said: Fraser is a tosser but smashing (not throwing) and egg on someone whilst filming clearly was aiming to get a reaction. Anyone doing such an act should be aware that their actions have consequences. |
Oh I agree. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The kid got more than he bargained for, he got physically assaulted more than once, then heavily pinned to the ground for a substantial amount of time, it was overblown.
| Cobretti2 said: 17 year old is hardly a minor. It's called a little cunt who knows what they are doing and should be wacked back to learn some respect. Younger men than him went to WWI and WWII to defend this country, they would be disgusted by him. He is no hero. I mean he attacked a senior citizen who is 70 years old. The blokes who died at war are heros. |
Under Australian law... Anyone under the age of 18 years is a minor.
The kid is still a hero in my eyes... And that doesn't make war heroes any less of a hero either, so there isn't any point bringing that issue in.
Being egged is "hardly" a damaging attack either, it's embarrassing sure, but you aren't exactly at risk of bodily harm.
| jason1637 said: 1. If the government begins to oppress its citizens and takes away their rights then citizens should get their weapons and fight back. In some countries that the government have expressed their people the elections are rigged and peaceful protests are meet with military action. |
There is no evidence that your slippery slope logical fallacy is going to occur here or any other modern, highly advanced, stable democracy, though.
| jason1637 said: 2. Well the government should have took his guns away. Apparently reports say the guy has been planning this attack for a while. |
Hence why there is an obvious failing in the New Zealand system and it should have a complete top-to-bottom audit and various gun control legislation tightened.
| jason1637 said: 3. Well unlike aliens governments have a history of oppressing their people throughout history. It would ne naive to think you are safe from the government and that it cant happen again. |
The point you are missing is that you are speaking entirely in hypothetical's...
Remember when the Church was saying that same-sex marriage would destroy the sanctity of marriage, destroy childrens lives and so on? Yeah. That didn't happen either... Which is why Slippery Slope Logical Fallacies can be discarded in their absurd entirety.
| jason1637 said: The media are private corporations and can always be bought out. Also if the government tries to restrict press privileges than the media won't do much for you. |
You know there are tons of sources of information that we are bombarded with these days from all directions? Governments controlling everything is actually becoming a more difficult prospect, China tries it's hardest and often fails.
With that in mind... Usually once a Government starts taking control of media and issues censorship, they have already started to enact a multi-year strategy... And a small group of citizens waving a couple of guns about isn't going to change a damn thing, not in the face of the Governments Police, Navy, Army, Airforce and Security organizations... In short. You are up shit creek without a paddle either way.
| jason1637 said: There are lot of civilizations and countries that have had a constitution and checks and balances but end up going down due to their oppressive governments. |
And do you honestly think a small group of people waving guns about would have altered the trajectory of those outcomes? And usually those nations weren't highly advanced, free, modern, democracies with strong foundations.
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