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Bofferbrauer2 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Joe Biden is the only real shot the Dems have against Trump

I wouldn't be so sure.

In fact, with Trump's actions provoking a counter-movement in the other direction, I think Biden is too centrist to garner the votes of of the progressives, as he's to centrist, too conservative, too much embodying "Establishment".

Also, have a look at this video. I know it's just a prediction, but it seems fairly logical to me for the most part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvOqcHSiPl0

Bernie and others though would likely struggle to get independents/centrists votes seeing as how most people not on the far left still hate socialism. Independents make up the majority in terms of political affiliation, so just know if the Democrats decide to go Bernie or some other route to please the far left crowd, it will likely (and most probably) bite them in the rear end when it comes to independent votes such as mine.

BTW, I use to like Bernie's personality initially given the contrast of everyone else, but then I listened to his policies, and safe to say after a month's time I despised him. Bernie's the type of candidate like Romney that would likely start strong but soon head on a downward trajectory once everyone understands their platform. No matter how much people can claim 'Socialism would be great' (even though history states otherwise), the majority of Americans still hate it.

Biden works because he can appeal to the middle while also being a charismatic figure for the left. Honestly, given the choice of Bernie or Trump, I'd pick Trump every time due to economic beliefs (which is seen as the biggest issue in most American elections), but if say Biden were to run, I'd have to give it some thought.