Help with Mini-ITX Gaming Build

[Pemalite]

Biggerboat1 said:

Pemalite said:

The Ryzen 2700 gives you 2 extra CPU cores and 10 extra CPU threads.
It also has a 400mhz base clock and 200mhz Boost clock advantage... Plus cache advantages and so on.
End result is... Faster single threaded performance and massive advantage in multi-threaded scenarios.

You could probably find a cheaper AMD ITX motherboard... But you really are paying for significantly better performance.

As for the PC gamer benchmarks... Something is off. No way will a Broadwell 5930K outbench an i9 7900X.

Anandtech is a better representation: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2341?vs=2274
And as more games become heavily threaded, the Ryzen will age far far better... It's like the Core 2 Quad Q6600 and Core i7 980 all over again.

It's a complete reversal these days... I couldn't possibly recommend AMD FX to anyone, only Intel.
Today I can't recommend Intel, only AMD. AMD Simply have more bang-for-buck.

Would you say that the 2600, as Bofferbrauer2 is suggesting would be a good compromise? (especially if the OC is a realistic option...)

Overclocking is always a realistic option with AMD.

The 2600 will win in lightly threaded scenario's once overclocked, no question against a stock R7 2700/i5 8400. - But it's heavily threaded performance will probably come up short against the 2700... Which is expected with a 25% reduction in core/thread counts.

I would still go with the 2700 personally, even if it meant a reduction in the GPU performance. (Which you will likely swap out for a faster one in a couple years anyway.)

That's not to say the 2600 is a bad chip, far from it... But I am of the mind of buying the best CPU you can afford, because these days they tend to last 7-10 years in a rig where you  replace a GPU far more often... My 6-core i7 3930K chip in another PC from 2011 is still playing the latest games at max settings for instance.

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Or you could take it in the complete opposite direction and grab the Ryzen 3 2200G. 3.9ghz is good with those chips...  And then upgrade to the Ryzen 7 3000 series when it releases, which should increase clocks, core counts and IPC across the entire board later this year. (Also AMD's first 7nm CPU's.)
...Should also be a drop in replacement. win win.