Help with Mini-ITX Gaming Build

[Biggerboat1]

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Biggerboat1 said:

The thing with Pemalite's suggested AMD CPU & mobo is that they're coming in at £244.98 & £158.99, compared to £179.99 & £95.48 for the 8400 & mobo I originally suggested...

On top of that, from what I can see from this article, the 8400 is faster for gaming than every Ryzen chip... So what am I missing - why would I pay significantly more for less performance?

Re. M.2 NVMe SSDs, I didn't even know they were a thing :)  Will definitely have a rethink on that one!

The difference in performance is minimal as you're mostly limited by the GPU anyway. What more in frames it can produce is neither discernible or felt IRL. However, with 12 threads instead of 6, it's much more future proof. Any game that can make use of 8 threads or more the 2600 will beat the 8400, and that list of games is growing.

Edit: look this video, it's about 10% faster at best than the 2600 in 1080p, with some games being virtually identical. In higher resolutions, the GPU limit sets in, and the 8400 looses it's lead completely.

But look up in my first post and you'll see I suggested an R5 2600 instead, which is slightly cheaper then the 8400 (about 5£), and any B450 Mainboard suffices for StoreMI, so you can choose a (much) cheaper one than the one suggested without any real drawbacks there.

Ok, I'm definitely coming around to the 2600.

They offer to OC it to 4GHz free of charge - which actually puts it above the 8400 across the board!!

Obviously the issue would be cooling.

From this review of the SilverStone FTZ01 it shows an OC'd i5-4670K (@4GHz) paired with a Noctua NH-L9x65 cooler being 48°C increase over ambient (Delta T) when running Unigine Heaven and Prime 95 v25.11.

Would those results indicate whether an OC'd 2600 (using the same cooler) would be ok? And if so, what would be my starting point for a suitable mobo?

Thanks again for the advice!