Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
It's also pretty normal for poor people to become religious.
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Poor people tend to also have sub-par education. - Correlation?
DélioPT said:
"Matthew 10:34 - Jesus wanted war."
The reasoning is that Jesus will eventually be something that some won't accept while others will. Thus, division will occur (intolerance).
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That is your interpretation, which deviates from what it says in plain black and white in it's literal form.
DélioPT said:
" Jesus condemned entire cities to death and eternal torment because they don't care for his preaching. - Matthew 11:20"
No. "Then Jesus began to denounce the towns in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent."
What this means is very simple: There were those who repented and were saved and there were those who didn't repent, despite being given reasons to do so, and weren't saved. That's the basis of Christianity: either you follow the path salvation or you don't. But you can't complain after you willingly made the wrong choice.
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No. It's very clear what it says.
Either way, even if your hypothesis was true, your God is still a cruel God for not simply saving everyone, but would rather large swathes of the population to suffer.
What is the point of your God offering free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it, but instead you have to conform and fall inline to it's abhorrent doctrine?
DélioPT said:
"Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. - Matthew 10:21 - Families will be torn a part by Jesus."
You should read the rest: "Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me"
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Still doesn't make it any better I am afraid. It just tacks on hatred as a side-effect.
DélioPT said:
"Jesus criticized the Jewish people for not murdering their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. - Mark 7:9"
He criticized this: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!" and "Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."
The idea behind this was to show how the followed their own ideas and not the ones that God gave them, yet they acted as if they followed the latter.
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7-9&version=NIV
" You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’"
DélioPT said:
Just an advice, maybe you should rethink how you express yourself about other people's beliefs, lest you get a ban for no good reason.
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I am literally copy-pasting verses from the Bible. - If what I have posted causes offense... You should probably change religions.
Feel free to whack that report button on any of my posts though.
At the end of the day, Jesus wasn't a nice, caring individual if the Bible, Torah and Quran are to be believed, the science-fiction claims where he performed various "miracles" are yet to be substantiated with any empirical evidence... And in-fact the Quran and Torah perspective on Jesus is actually different from the Bible.
And considering the Torah is the oldest of the Abrahamic faiths, shouldn't that be the one that takes priority?
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"Either way, even if your hypothesis was true, your God is still a cruel God for not simply saving everyone, but would rather large swathes of the population to suffer.
What is the point of your God offering free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it, but instead you have to conform and fall inline to it's abhorrent doctrine?"
God wants to save everyone. It's people who don't want to be saved.
If you can choose between being with God and not being with Him, how are you not exercising your free will? There's nothing left to choose from.
"the science-fiction claims where he performed various "miracles" are yet to be substantiated with any empirical evidence"
The science-fiction claims? Really? Way to show respect! :)
That's all i have to say.
