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Pemalite said:
Eagle367 said:

That is a very abstract and philosophical conversation, not a scientific one. You can't shoehorn science into everything. Because science can measure the physical, not the abstract. Is murder wrong because it's an evolutionary advantage and is in our genes or is there actually a soul and a set morality that is ingrained in us not biologically but metaphysically. Is morality the consequence of our time or is there an absolute morality that we are following or not. These are questions beyond science. Science has a lot of advantages but can't do everything. All intellectuals including atheists acknowledge that. Try asking people at the top of their scientific fields and they will tell you the same

It's actually very pragmatic.
If assertions cannot be justified with empirical evidence.... I.E. Sin, God, Hell and so on, then they can be discarded.

Nope because will and emotions by design make no sense through an empirical analysis. You can't measure emotion, intelligence, will and only consequences of it. Any biological being that feels in any way cannot be put in a box with just empirical evidence. I would say it's very close minded rather than pragmatic. Which is funny since atheists like to call religious people close minded without actually acknowledging any benefit of religion. The scientific method cannot and should not be applied everywhere, it was never meant to be applied everywhere and it can be very destructive whent Ake to the extreme, just as most extremes can be.



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