Why did Jesus Christ sacrifice his self for you?

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Cerebralbore101 said:

Chris Hu said:

Nope, there is zero evidence that Jesus ever existed.  Of course if you believe in some or even most of the ancient myth and fair tales in the book that also contains Jesus then its pretty easy to convince yourself that he actually existed.  With most historical real people from the past there are numerous sources of evidence that they actually existed. 

That isn't a rebuttal though. I keep giving you evidence that he existed, and you keep simply stating that there is no evidence, without dealing with what I actually said. 

I don't think the evidence is very strong.  I don't believe that Paul necessarily met the birth brother of Jesus.  It may have been the case that James was his birth brother, but the word brother (or its translation) is also used in other contexts, like a follower or close friend.  

As for Josephus, he was born in 37 AD, so he wouldn't have been an eye witness and there is speculation that the passages on Jesus may have been later interpolations.  I really don't have the scholarship to address that, but it's not a fringe view.

Overall, the evidence is very limited.  I tend to side with historicity, because it honestly doesn't matter too much to my beliefs, and I think arguing his non-existence is more difficult than addressing the way more obvious flaws.  But I would tenuously agree that there is no good evidence.

Mr_No said:
He died because of our sins, simple as that.

But I knew this thread would only devolve on jokes or "he did not exist", completely deviating from the topic at hand, like all other threads with religious topics...

It's not deviating from the topic at hand.  It is directly addressing it.  For a claim with no evidence "that didn't happen" is a perfectly valid response.  For a ridiculous claim ridicule is appropriate.