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CosmicSex on 10 October 2018
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RolStoppable said:
epicurean said:

You're the most right person in this thread. Except me, of course. But you're very close.

Everyone just wants to assign him to their enemy so they can say "We can't follow (insert), he's just like Hitler! The next Hitler won't be Hitler, anyway, he'll be something else entirely. You don't have to believe in the master Aryan race to kill a crap load of people and try and take over the world.

There's a good reason why SpokenTruth gets ignored. There's nothing baseless about aligning Hitler with the far-right, because his nationalism and push towards one simple answer for all kinds of problems is exactly what the far-right stands for. Of course the modern far-right won't be doing exactly the same things that Hitler did, but the underlying principles are the same.

Brexit is a good of example of modern far-right thinking where nationalism combined with one simple answer now leaves people dumbfounded why they voted for a Brexit in the first place. Brexit was sold to them as something that would improve their quality of life, because EU membership of the UK was supposedly one big disadvantage.

Aligning Hitler with the far-right is not a statement that the far-left are the good guys, it's merely performing a logical analysis of history.

You surprise me again.  I didn't know you were capable of such straight up logic.  People don't know how to discern degrees of intensity (which you already explained) so thats why we have a topic where people equate Hitler with socialism.   As if you are either anti-socialist or a Nazi.... and there no other schools of thought.  Or people just completely misidentify Nationalism.  But yes, Nationalism seeks to take complex issues and simplifies it under an 'us vs them' argument.  If we build this wall... the jobs come back.  Well, anyone with a post elementary school education realizes this tactic.  I will argue that while this is this brand of fear mongering is clearly identified as 'right-wing'  the tactic itself proceeds the political wing concept.  I mean, if we are being honest, Nationalism is basically the concept of sowing racism and exploiting that in the population for political gain.  And even more basic and older than that is leading through fear.  And to come full circle, yes, the far-right is know for using the same tactics of Hitler (minus the genocide most of the time) and others.   Nationalism is a far right concept.