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Smartie900 on 03 August 2018
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COKTOE said:
Smartie900 said:

Regardless of whether she actually means it or not, she's not making these types of statements in 2018. I can't really give you a reasonable timeframe for when these types of actions are okay but she's not making them in our current political climate. The statements she made were awful, but there has to be a point in time where people look past the mistakes they made and try to better themselves to make sure that they don't express that type of vitriol again. If we keep slamming individuals relentlessly for stuff that they said in the past, we won't be able to change as a society or better ourselves as individuals. Her apology didn't seem bitter and it seemed like she was truly ready to learn from her past occurrences. There has to be a point in time where a person is given a second chance to grow and mature. 

I appreciate your well measured, fart free response, but I really don't think there's enough of a difference between 2013/2015 and 2018 to make any kind of distinction between what was unacceptable to say then vs what is unacceptable now.

As for the rest of your post. Sure. And I'm not saying that sarcastically. It's a good way to think. It's just that: It was so recently. It went on for quite a while. This was a THING with her. She was around 27 when this ceased. That's an adult. Well into adulthood. As far as her sincerity in apologizing: I have no idea. Like I asked earlier: Did she try to get out in front of this at any time before it became public knowledge? And I'm not including the "candid" conversation she had with her then prospective employers at the NYT during their "vetting" process. Or was this only addressed when she had no longer had any choice in the matter? Honestly, I don't think she deserves to work in journalism. I hope it ends up that she's forfeited that privilege. I think she should be able to be a musician. Become an astronomer. Pump gas. Whatever. But not work any job that involves the public trust. I hear you, and respect the compassion, but......I really hope she loses her job for being a racist dumbass. There are worse fates out there, many of them thrust upon less deserving individuals.

That's fair. I do question her objectivity as a journalist and her ability to connect with multiple audiences besides those that are trying to defend the tweets she made. Her fate lies in the hands of the NY Times and how much public backlash they're willing to deal with for now.