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SpokenTruth said:
massimus said:

I am a radical centrist far removed from either worthless party and I don’t criticize the left for their words. Their actions are just as atrocious if not worse because they are hiding behind fake compassion. 1) I see things like these mobs going to peoples houses to harass them just because they are associated with a president they have an 2) irrational, seething hatred for. That’s the left that needs to go rot in a hole. I have no problem with reasonable lefties, old school lefties. The new left doesn’t stand for human rights, 3) almost all of their policies lead to misery. The old left had solutions (bad solutions but solutions nonetheless). The new left doesn’t nothing but hate people. They rally, riot and trash people. What does the left stand for today besides hating Trump? That’s all they do. 

1) Are you proclaiming the actions of a very few are indicative of the whole? Or can you produce evidence of this being common or a stated policy on the left?

2) You and I have a different understanding of irrational. You are asserting a reason for their hatred for Trump does not exist. I can assure it you it does.

3) Elaborate which policies you refer to. 

4) You seem to be alluding to AntiFa.  Again....see point 1).

No I'm saying we are the few when it comes to representation in our republic. The vast majority of us are centrists and we are getting hit from all angles. There are no oldie left democrats in congress or the judicial branch besides maybe Kennedy. The leftists in the SCOTUS and houses are hardliners and vote in unison against our constitution much of the time. They are judicial and congressional activists, they nullify law, "social justice in the name of compassion". They are not responsible for the misery that follows with stupid policy because their intentions were good. If the left was all talk then they wouldn't bother me, when they put their stupid into practice it does though. Free college, healthcare and everyone gets a federal job with great salary and retirement! What a dream boat, Bernie the Red lol. I lean right on economics and there was a time when both parties respected the centrist market. Those days are long gone. There is no representation for the blue collar democrat or the limited government, low tax republican in Washington right now. Taxation without representation.,

 

No, the hatred itself is irrational. I didn't like Bush or Obama but I didn't hate them. Obama talked straight shit to me and I still didn't hate him. I think their spending has put us on the brink of collapse financially. That's rational hatred of policy but I still don't hate them as people. That level of emotion is irrational. What has he actually done policy wise that could make you feel that way? Do you just hate him as a person that much? And it's not just a few random people either, it's become a game to see who hates Trump more. With celebrity endorsements and battle lines drawn in the middle of dinner. That's all good but what are your solutions? What is your platform besides I hate Trump more than you do? Maybe it's just my fault for trying to look at it rationally.

 

The vast majority of americans are centrists at heart, they couldn't give a crap about any of this and that's another problem lol. Apathy is no joke either, it can lead to seriously bad decisions. The newer generation not so much, they are much more involved. They are fighting for "human rights" by campaigning against Sony for Fortnite crossplay. They learned that you can get what you want if you cry hard enough. It's politicians like Maxine Waters encouraging this harassment and she is the face of the Democrat party lol. It's not some random thug in a mask, I'm talking about politicians and policy not a lefty in a forum You seem alright to me. Do you have a favorite leftist governor or congressman that is making moves and doing good things? I'm just curious to see which of your favorite leftist policies are working. I know who you hate lol, who do you like?



Yes, look at what democrat policies have done to black communities across the states in the last 60 years. Everything from welfare killing the family to Affirmation action killing the economy and education in these communities. Every black ghetto has been run by a democrat the last 60 years and now 80% of black kids do not live with their father,  the evidence is undeniable. Uncle Sam has replaced the father and you have to keep voting for this misery because they are the compassionate ones. That's what I mean by fake compassion, it's either predictably ignorant or sadistically evil.  When the left is helping black communities fight  systemic racism while at the same time being the cause of their systemic oppression, that's what makes me think the modern left are pieces of shit, liars and scumbags. Not you but just the general practice of leftists in the government. I wouldn't judge the left by Antifa just like I wouldn't judge the right by the tiki squad. Neither of them are in real politics. Just a few blowhards like Waters trying to rile them up.

Last edited by massimus - on 25 June 2018