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irstupid said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Can you structure your argument more clearly? I don't see the point you're trying to make.

I have two points.

1. This school schooting was 100% the fault of the police, FBI, ect for not doing anything. They all seemed to know this kid was messed up and trouble and yet nothing was done. His method of killing is not the problem, the problem was knowing a killing would happen and ignoring it.

2. The slippery slope is what a slippery slope always is. Think of DLC/microtransactions. In the start they were little things and slowly it has become worse and worse. Even when you have huge outcry like EA battlefront, they still sell millions and micros are not going away. Same with laws. Think of gun laws. Lets say their is a shooting and they ban automatic weapons. Then next shooting they ban silencers. Then next shooting they ban semi-auto's. then next shooting they ban shotguns, ect. It's a common thing to do. you know you can't ban something or implement something all at once, so you take baby steps.

It's the classic situation where you don't care until they finally come after you. I'm sure you would laugh, scoff or get angry whenever someone comes out and tries to blame video games for violence. But that is what I'm talking about. They ban guns finally. You don't care cause you don't have any guns.  Violence still persists, so they ban knives. Again you don't care cause you don't have knives. Violence still persists, so they then ban violence on tv, movies and video games. Now you care and are complaining that they are coming after you and that video game and movies don't cause violence.

 

BTW, I do blame video games and movies more than guns for violence. Guns, bombs or weapons of any kind are just tools. It's a mental thing that makes one do violence. is that video games or movies? Sure for some. It could also be NRA meetings, church, parents, friends influence, facebook post, movie, book, ect. All those things and more influence a persons thinking, mentality, character, ect. A gun is just a tool. An effective tool, but a tool non the less. Think of Nuclear energy. It can be used to power a city, or it can be used to reduce it to ashes. It all depends on the person who is using it's motives. The splitting of atoms itself is not the enemy.

That the officer in front of the school was at fault for not doing anything is beyond doubt.

I don't think you can call this a slippery slope kind of argument, you're taking the argument to widely. As far as restricting acces to some kind of guns is just common sense. Civilians don't need acces to assault rifles or mods that can change semi-auto weapons to fully auto. Of course, a gun is just a tool, not an origin of violence in itself. But you don't have to be a genious to realize that kids having acces to fully automatic weapons or pistols is a much more dangerous proposition then let's say a knife.

And blaming video games and movies is something I'm immediatly going to put to the side. The USA has this problem extensively, most other nations don't. So unless there's something in the water that triggers US kids when they see violence on TV to start shooting up their schools, violence in the media is too easy a scapegoat.