My prediction: PS4 will outsell Switch lifetime

[DonFerrari]

thismeintiel said:

DonFerrari said:

Why use the misconcept of the DVD?

Was the DVD function that made it sell that much even after X360 released? Was the DVD functionality that made it sell more SW than any other system?

PS2 HW was great for the pricepoint and time of release. It was released for small loss as usual, and GC+XB were only stronger because they launched later and could use more advanced tech.

PS2 had Dreamcast, GC and Xbox to compete against, but even so it didn't even considered them competition when it smoked they out.

If you want to use DVD to justify the sales why not use netflix and BD for PS4?

Lol, it's always hilarious to see people try and use the DVD excuse over and over.  The fact is, as I proved in a thread of mine, the DVD had little to absolutely nothing to do with the success of the PS2.  DVD players were available for much cheaper than the $299 the PS2 launched for in 2000.  If I remember correctly from that thread, you could get one for $99-$149 that year, and the following year you could get one for $49-$69. 

The reality was that the PS2 helped DVD sales, not the other way around.  DVD sales went up AFTER the PS2 launched in pretty much every region.  They weren't doing great and then the PS2 launched and people were like, "Hey, these DVDs are great, let's get a PS2 that can play them and game."  It was gamers buying the PS2 saying, "Hey, the PS2 can also play DVDs, I guess we should pick up a couple to test them out."

Sure PS2 having DVD may have had some impact for people that wanted a console and had a DVD as bonus or for fathers that could gift their children with a console and avoid buying a DVD for himself... but considering the total sales of DVD players WW, the sale of the games and etc it makes 0 sense to attribute the sales of PS2 to it...

But in VGC is always like this... when Sony have success it is either because they were lucky, there were outside advantages or the adversaries made blunders, Sony can never have any merit on their success, just on their shortcomings... because PS3 selling almost 90M is a flop while other consoles reaching 50M are fantastic.

ThisGuyFooks said:

thismeintiel said:
Lol, it's always hilarious to see people try and use the DVD excuse over and over.  The fact is, as I proved in a thread of mine, the DVD had little to absolutely nothing to do with the success of the PS2.  DVD players were available for much cheaper than the $299 the PS2 launched for in 2000.  If I remember correctly from that thread, you could get one for $99-$149 that year, and the following year you could get one for $49-$69. 

The reality was that the PS2 helped DVD sales, not the other way around.  DVD sales went up AFTER the PS2 launched in pretty much every region.  They weren't doing great and then the PS2 launched and people were like, "Hey, these DVDs are great, let's get a PS2 that can play them and game."  It was gamers buying the PS2 saying, "Hey, the PS2 can also play DVDs, I guess we should pick up a couple to test them out."

Just like the PS3 helped the Blu-Ray sales.

We should remember that there was a format war between the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, which Blu-Ray won of course.

If it wasn't for the PS3, maybe we would have a different format standard nowadays.

Yep, they use DVD to say PS2 sold well, but then use BD high price to make PS3 fail... but certainly PS3 could have had a different sales curve if they were able to launch for 399 without BD and Cell... still I'm happy with what my PS3 was and the sales were good.

NintendoPie said:

StreaK said:
I don't know, 25 and 24 million in ONE year??? They just seem waaaaay too high for me. I mean, PS4 hasn't even seen a 20+ million year yet. Sorry, I'm against it and I almost wanna bet on it! :)

So the Switch couldn't possibly sell 24+ million in a year just because you are against it, or do you have a real reason? If not, you need to set down your blinders because they are obscuring your reality. 

And Switch will hit over 24+M because you want?

Miyamotoo said:

StokedUp said:
The fact the PS4 has consistently outsold the Switch WW weekly except on several occasions this year even when the Switch is its its first year and the PS4 is its its 5th-6th Goes to show just how well the PS4 is doing this gen and that your prediction will more than likely be true.
Will the Switch be selling aswell as the PS4 is after 5-6 years!? Somehow I doubt it especially as Sony and Microsoft will both have thier new consoles in the market by then.

What you wrote dont make sense because this is peak PS4 year until now (its selling best this year in 4. years) and 1st year are very rarely peak years for any console, especially with fact that most of this year Switch had stock problems and still have them in Japan.

 

StreaK said: 

The Switch will NOT sell over 20 million consoles in ANY given year. That's my prediction. :)

Well Nintendo predicted they will ship 17m Switch consoles in first 13 months, and that's with huge stock problem in most part of this year, so over 20m is definatly realistick posibilite for future years.

So no more 30M shipped in 2018?