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monocle_layton said:
o_O.Q said:

 

because you were challenging me stating that feminism is an irrational ideology... i suppose i was just trying to see your perspective since you think the opposite, i suppose all i can say now is to ask you to sincerely look at what feminists are campaigning for now and ty to determine for yourself if their current stated goals are in anyway sensible or even desirable for men and women

 

i don't think they are and i have difficulty believing others do tbh... and in many cases like with the owner of neogaf... they do not, they simply use the ideology as a cloak to mask their true intentions which are sociopathic

 

uh... to those who keep saying that feminism is irrelevant here - the very reason neogaf is falling apart is that its owner claimed to uphold feminist values and then was outed as a misogynist

Aeolus brought a point that helped me understand you properly. When I mentioned feminism, I was referring to the overall movement, not the modern day feminism in western countries.

 

I will certainly say their priorities are in the wrong locations. Instead of doing ridiculous movements like the Pussy hat movement or whatever, it'd be nice if they focused on women in the US who actually need help...a lot of poor women can't afford hygiene products. I don't know about you, but I'd rather help the women who need certain items instead of wasting my time with silly rallies (pussy hat rally, slut rally, etc).

 

Feminism is good and has the ability to still be useful, but the approach many take nowadays is something I won't stand by.

 

I agree with you more, but at first I failed to see your original point

 feminism is pretty much dead in terms of activity in all areas where it would be needed

in fact i would say that there is an inversely proportional relationship between women being treated poorly by a society and the presense of feminism

 

"it'd be nice if they focused on women in the US who actually need help"

 

well tbh i don't really believe that the aim is to help women at all (by the elements that actually have power, not by the random people who follow what they are told), but that's my opinion

 

"a lot of poor women can't afford hygiene products."

 

well that's what being poor means for both men and women

we define poor people as people who lack the money to buy things

 

the thing is that i don't disagree that women's interest shoud be looked out for, i totally stand behind that, but it must be done in a sensible logical way, not a way that is entirely guided by emotional rhetoric