| etking said: The USA heavily influences other countries elections all the time. And it is absolutely clear that the Clinton hack heavily influenced the outcome of the US election. It is so extremely obvious that it doesn't even need any further investigation. |
From what I understand, the question here isn't so much did it influence the election, or who was involved. General consensus throughout the intelligence branches appear to be a) Yes, yes it did, and b) Yes, yes it was pretty definitely Russia.
The crux of the investigation now seems to be whether the Trump campaign itself- and this could be either Donald Trump himself, or people running the campaign- were fully aware or even assisting in coordinating these operations with those influencing it. That's where most of the gray remains, as much of what seems to be out there supporting it right now is circumstancial. We know a number of people in Trump's circle inconveniently forgot (oops) to disclose Russian contacts when they were supposed to, (Flynn, Sessions, Kushner, iirc, are at least some). We know that Trump publically made comments endorsing that Clinton's emails should be hacked and leaked, Trump himself has lied about never meeting/speaking to Putin, (either lying during the campaign when he said he never had, or lying in the past when he said they have,) but all that definitely proves is that Trump is a liar and a blowhard. Which is extremely obvious in and of itself. xP
It isn't, however, a smoking gun.
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