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SpokenTruth said:
Ouroboros24 said:

Okay, this is the problem with your argument.  You give him no room to do anything right.  In your eyes, nothing he does now is correct and he shouldn't be given a chance.  Let's just outright go into the impeachment process day 1.  That is what you're arguing for.  At least if we give him a chance, we would know whether or not we had it right or wrong. 

And for all the wrong he's done, everyone seems to forget the right he does.  You place Trump on the stigma that he's racist, misogynist, incompetent, etc. all based on the soundbytes that the media has placed on him.   Sorry buddy, but that's just one side to his spinning coin.  He's done some great things for the world and for people.  Just like how Hillary is made out to look like some she-demon, unless you look through her personal records, has done great things for people.  I'm just saying, he's not forgiven, but we owe Donald, nay, we owe the system some vote of confidence.  You can tar and feather them after their failures.

So we've just witnessed him screw up over the past 1.5 years and not do any better post-election and yet you want me to ignore the past 1.5 years and horrible transition period thus far and give him a chance?   He's not shown me one moment of being presidential material this whole time but I'm supposed to assume he'll do a 180 and become presidential material now?

Realistically, you're saying no chance whatsoever.  Right, that's basically what you're saying?  I mean, you only have to live with him for the next 4 years and you've already said he's the devil and that's it.  When it comes to an inch of favor, he get's none.  That's your logical view on how to treat the man who holds the highest office in the land. No respect whatsoever? 

And again, who is accepting of this guy? Who is forgetting all the things that he's done wrong?  Nobody, that's who.  There's a difference between giving someone the benefit of the doubt, and just straight out denying.  No one ever said let's look away from what he's done.  No one ever said he's forgiven for all the crazy  things he's said.  The difference here is that I'm waiting for him to screw up.  I'm waiting for him to be in office so I can tell what he's doing wrong.  But you, you just want him out now.  There's no budge in you that you can't even look pass your own opinion and be just a little postive over a terrible outcome.  That's like saying the Switch is going to fail even when it hasn't even released yet.  Just doom and gloom.  To that I say: sour grapes.