How are white people supposed to feel about their own race?

[Final-Fan]

DonFerrari said:

Final-Fan said:

1.  So you're saying "they are all greedy and selfish, but not to the exact same degree".  That's not exactly refuting my point.  By now it seems to me the basis for your position is "power corrupts", which could easily be applied to the corporations you seem to claim the unions are victimizing, or the government, or anyone. 

2.  Decent wages followed industrialization at quite a distance, coincidentally right when unionization gained steam?  The same happened with society addressing horrible work conditions, wage slavery, et cetera? 

1. Unless you want to refute human kind then you can't put that it's invalid. No, power don't corrupt, corrupts seek power to use it that way. I couldn't care less about the corporations or unions. The only problem is that the direct effect of demanding more from the corporations get throw back at the society right away. Again, it's impossible to give what you don't have, and since corporations need to make profit, if you raise the costs (like by demanding bigger wages) you will raise the price and the society will have to pay it, and then the same money will value less.

2. Sure the way things were 150 years ago are still the same right now right?

1.  It's naive to think that there's a 1:1 relationship between raising or lowering wages and what corporations charge the public for their goods and services.

2.  You have yet to explicitly admit that unions EVER had a good effect on the workforce.  Will you do so now?