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Strato said:
Final-Fan said:
I'd like to thank mai for creating this thread, and the many people who posted thoughtfully on this issue. I found the CNN link particularly helpful. For all the mockery they bring down on themselves for simulating plane crashes in their Holographic TerrorDome, they are still able to do very good reporting when they want to.

It sounds to me like Brazil is on the verge of seizing power from a slightly-corrupt president and handing it over to a convicted very-corrupt vice president, possibly for the purpose of trying to foil dozens of ongoing corruption investigations. It will be bad news for Brazil if this happens, even if it doesn't weaken the strength of the entire republic (against future dictatorships taking power).

The USA has a lot of problems with its politicians, and in some way they will probably prove even harder to root out than this style of blatant corruption because of how insidious it is. But on the other hand, this type of stuff is completely out of the question here.

It is the opposite. Vice president does not have a formal accusation (just suspects him a lot) and the president has 7 formal charges filed by the OAB(Order of Attorneys of Brazil), including that she tried to obstruct justice and ongoing corruption investigations. NYT and CNN do not help much

A few minutes of Google shows that they are all under investigation for various activities.  The fact that charges have been filed against Roussef hardly proves that she is any more guilty than the others.  For instance, I would be surprised if the senate fails to impeach Renan Calheiros on the charges standing against him there now that they must decide by open ballot instead of the secret ballot that let him off the hook on the first charge.  (The rules change being directly motivated by massive outrage that he was let off the hook.) 

It's a big mess and I sympathize with those of you who are just wishing for honest leadership.  But if this current impeachment is motivated by those who want the Lava Jato - Car Wash investigation (which Rousseff is cooperating with) to end, it will cause a lot more problems than it solves.  Be vigilant! 



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