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LurkerJ said:
mornelithe said:

Not only that, but there are folks on the left who genuinely will not vote for Clinton, due to reasons of principle.  The fact she's probably facing indictment (as she should), the Benghazi thing, the fact she has spoken ignorantly about games and censorship, the fact that she's parroted the false 1 in 5 rape myth, the fact that she's parroted the 77c wage gap myth, the fact that she claims 'listen and believe' for rape victims, conveniently forgetting that under that definition her husband is a multiple time rapist, the fact that she said that women and their families are being crushed by mass incarceration...of women, when there are 13x the number of men in prison than women in the US, and men face on average like 8 years more time in prison for same/similar offenses.

I consider myself moderate/center left/libertarian, and there's no fucking way I'm voting for Hillary, nevermind Trump.  

What do you think of Bernie? 

He's also had issues with Free Speech, he's also parroted the insipid wage gap, and for some reason thinks White people aren't capable of being poor (whatever the hell that means).  The unfortunate thing is that I have valid concerns with basically every candidate, thus far Bernie's given me the least amount of concern (but I'm still concerned about him).  

I always have to temper my issues w/ candidates with knowing that any legislation they attempt to enact would be subject to judicial scrutiny, so...the SCOTUS should keep any attacks of free speech in check.   I'm afraid this time around there's no really good answer, just the least bad answer.   I may just vote independent.  I need to look into Johnson more, though.