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kitler53 said:

i think you are making things overcomplicated.

playstation (and i think xbox) already are getting away with selling 2 license with every digital download. 1 is tied to the hardware (my primary console) and one is tied to my online account.

aka - my wife's account can play games i downloaded to my primary console even though she doesn't own them but not on my other console. alternatively - i can play my entire library on any ps4 so long as i'm connected to the internet.

then fuck,.. just do the same with discs. 1 license is tied to the hardware (aka disc) and 1 license is tied to the account.

i pop in a disc and (like a majority of the people out there) my console is hooked up to the internet and the console subtley make an account based link between the game and the account. now i can play the game without a disc just as long as i'm connected to the internet.

also, the disc can be played always if it is in the hardware internet or no internet.  so if live/psn go down i can still play my game,.. i just have to pop the disc in. but if the disc is played by someone else while connected to the interet the "online/digital" license immediately transfers to them.

1) i can play the games i own on disc without a disc
2) i can sell the disc
2a) the game producer has confidence that the online licenses will transfer if they do. hell, i'd bet gamestop would be willing to immediatly transfer the online license to them when they buy a game
2b) the used game buyer has confidence that they can buy a used game and play it and not get screwed by a seller that if fucking with them from ANY seller (not just a gamestop that must go through a process to guarentee the license has sucessfully been transfered)
2c) as the seller of a game i won't buy a game and immediatly resell it thinking i can make a profit knowing the digital license will be revoked if the buyer uses the internet which i'm almost certain will happen



yeah okay there can be some abuses: I have an online console and my friend has a console that is always offline - we can gameshare. ...but i can already do that (and do do that) with my friends and account sharing.

i think the system is elegant and consumer friendly and the potential abuses are minimal.

Basically asking for a free digital copy, with a phsyical purchase. Which can work. Marvel does it with their comics. You buy the print. Nearly all of them have a digital code. I give out the code to my aussie friend. Which is a bitch to get comics from. So he wins out. And I still read my print.

kitler53 said:
SvennoJ said:
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 Publishers only want to make discs less desirable and cut costs wherever possible. No more manuals or anything, cutting holes in the boxes to save a bit of plastic. They're not going to allow discs to be used in two places at once.

i mean,.. yeah.  but i'm digital only just so i don't have to swap discs so i guess they got me to move.  worth it though.  people complain the costs are higher but i don't really buy it.  i see digital on psn cheaper than retail often enough.

Many times I've seen the phsyical copy on amazon 10-20$ cheaper than the digital copy of an older game.