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burning_phoneix on 05 July 2015
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gigaSheik said:
Samus Aran said:

Not every Nintendo studio makes good games, NST is one of them. That's all that can be said about it. Who's to blame? Both the managment and developers. How come Retro Studios is able to make good game after good game?

Maybe NST has a difficulty understanding design goals because Hunters is the worst selling Metroid game and it was on Nintendo's biggest userbase. Just because it has a multiplayer doesn't mean the singleplayer has to suck. Metroid Prime: Federation Force looks equally shitty to me.

Nintendo is to blame. Defenetely. I'm glad you mentioned Retro. Obviously Nintendo assigned a good team to manage Retro. And it wasn't without its share of problems. Many Retro games were canceled, like Ravenblade, and a lot of people were laid off as well but Nintendo wanted Metroid Prime to succeed. They never showed this dedication to NST. NST failure is Nintendo failure as a game company. They never really wanted NST to be successful. Nintendo was lazy and incompetent. Nintendo is to blame.

Nintendo is to blame?

 

You said it right there, nintendo managed to turn around Retro Studios, which was in shambles before Nintendo of Japan basically came in and cleaned house.

Nintendo treated Next Level Games so well that they stated they "We have worked with a lot of other companies before, and we're super happy with our relationship with Nintendo. There's no reason to look anywhere else. They keep giving us better and better IP to work with, and as long as we do our job and make good games for them there's no reason for us to venture out."

 

Rare was one of the hottest game devs under Nintendo, then they went to Microsoft and turned to shit?

 

If Nintendo can make three western devs under its belt produce excellent games and NST can't? Maybe NST were just not good enough?

 

pokoko said:
This is an amazing thread. We're seeing all the deny, deflect, and discredit reactions up close and personal. The best so far have been from people who didn't even watch the video, which always makes things fun. It's been a joy to witness.

Still, it's a shame that people try to bury the point beneath defensive rhetoric. There is a lot to learn from this and a lot that could be gained from honest discussion. I truly hope that NoA gained some insights from the results of their inquiry and that those results were passed along and given due consideration by upper Nintendo management. After all, they lost millions of dollars over this.



What's there to learn? This is basically layed off NST devs giving their side of the story. People with a vested interest in showing Nintendo in a bad light. There is no proof of any of these allegations. As I said above, Next Level Games is ecstatic to be working with Nintendo, Retro Studios was turned around by Nintendo...etc etc. Until we get Nintendo's side of the story, these are jsut accusations. Nothing else.