B-but they say PC requires hours of modding to get games to work... /s

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michael_stutzer said:

ofrm1 said:

michael_stutzer said:

You can't do a comparison like that. If you include 5$ keyboard and mouse, you should substract the price of the DS4 and add a 5$ gamepad. My mouse was 50$ and DS4 costs about the same.

Also how is Windows unnecessary? Very few games  support Lİnux ( though it is improving). With a quality mouse, keyboard, and 65$ Windows, you are way over console price. 

No offense, but your mouse isn't the standard here. You can find mice for free, but I actually figured people wouldn't be that thrifty. What do you mean add a $5 gamepad? Are you saying replace the DS4 with some crappy gamepad? Can you even do that? I don't own a PS4, so I don't know, but I figured the system would be closed to their controllers, or dedicated third party manufacturers like madcatz, in which case they'd be cheaper than the DS4, but still at least $30, likely $40. Either way, you can't find a regular DS4 for $5, but you can find a mouse and keyboard for free, or for $5, and this isn't hard. It's remarkably easy.

As far as Linux support for games:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2824526/steam-for-linux-tops-700-games-as-big-name-games-increasingly-call-it-home.html

And that's just for steam alone. SteamOS is linux-based, so of course support for Linux has been expanding for the last year.

As far as I'm concerned, my comparison is more than fair.  Not to mention that I'm going a more eccentric route by avoiding AMD and insisting on Haswell with the G3258 which results in the build being more expensive. If I had gone AMD, I would have shaved off at least $50. So the notion that you can't beat a PS4 for $450 is just wrong. Sorry, but since the Maxwell graphics cards have come out, the AMD has slashed the prices of their entire line, meaning that you can get a cheap AMD CPU, and a cheap AMD GPU which tend to be the most expensive parts on a PC by a wide margin. If we up the price to $550, the performance gulf expands greatly as an r9 280x is in price-range then, and that will run laps around the consoles.

PS4 features a high quality controller. A 5$ mouse+keyboard combo will be crappy. I don't know how it is so hard to understand.  You can't just skimp on one of the most vital points in gaming and say this is cheaper. Of course you can find a mouse for free. You can even find a computer for free if you look at garbage bins long enough.

It is easy to play the numbers game. Do BF4 support Linux for example? Unity? The list can go on.

My point was specific to that point so you don't need to be sorry I didn't say anything about power. My upcoming PC in the pcpartpicker is about 10 Tflops. Just waiting to see 980 TI to see whether it is worth the premium over the 980. Going to do SLI with one of them.

sorry bud but don't get your hope up for the 980Ti as it's very unlikely, http://wccftech.com/tsmc-buys-14b-worth-equipment-16nm-volume-prediction-begins-q2q3-2015/