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Conegamer said:
Having watched and followed through the referendum most of the Yes votes are through belief and general dislike of the English, concentrated by Salmond and the SNP.

This is wrong. I'm not sure if you have it so wrong because of the media you consume, or because you have an inherent bias against Scottish motivations.

Conegamer said:
Very very few Yes voters are doing it because it'll be better economically or because Scots would be better off, because odds are that won't be the case.

I feel this shows how little you are truly aware of the debate in Scotland just now. Almost every voter I've spoken to, both Yes and No, is voting with the economy forefront in their mind. I don't think many Yes voters believe they will be individually better off (although, of course, some do, and sometimes for good reason), but most do believe the society as a whole could be considerably richer, largely because the matters that are most important to Scots will be catered to, rather than being side-lined as they often are currently. There are many ways of being 'better off'.

Conegamer said:
It's the same thing as in this thread. People like throwing the idea of independence about but when it comes down to the finer details, often it just doesn't make sense to be in a worse position than what they are in now. 

That's how it feels for this, and if Scotland vote yes (which still seems highly unlikely IMO) then they will find that out the hard way.

Insert 'devolved rule' where you say 'independence', and we have the same argument that was deployed against the devolved Scottish parliament. However, talk to anyone up here, and even those originally strongly against the devolved parliament now agree it was for the best. After all, all our pensioners have free bus passes to travel anywhere in Scotland, all prescriptions in Scotland are free, our university education is free, and so much more.

There is a reason many Scots are voting for SNP these days (and, as an aside, I've never voted for their party) -- when in power they have, broadly speaking, delivered on their promises. That's kinda rare in politics.