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Michael-5 said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Michael-5 said:

Well like I said, you can't assume Microsoft will change. You can assume that they won't and maybe get lucky with a better product.

Quantum Break is Remedy, and everything Remedy has made has released on PC. Even Alan Wake which Microsoft said would not release on PC. Console exclusive =/= exclusive, you wouldn't call Just Dance an HD exclusive if it released only on WiiU/XBO (for sake of arguement). Same applies here.

Obviously Sony didn't get serious about 1st party games until the 360, there were more exclusive 3rd party games on PS2 then not.

You have high hopes for a company which has a history of ripping people off where possible. Plus if Microsoft only has 3-4 years to debut all their exclusives (from history) and a year has past and the quality of the exclusives is about par with PS4, then all that means is that in 2-3 years time the XBO is going to start sagging behind. Plus once the Japanese are finished with the PS3, then you'll see a lot of 8+/10 exclusives start to appear on PS4.

lol look at how many times microsoft changed course before the release of xbox one that alone makes your statement invalid.
How? Microsoft was at first very resistant to changing their policies until they were esentially forced to do so.

Companies change all the time if it looks like it will affect their bottom line microsoft is not immune from this, neither is sony or nintendo.  Console exclusive= only available on one home console.  People considered final fantasy 7 for playstation an exclusive back in the day despite the fact that it could be bought on pc.  For whatever reason once microsoft started getting console exclusives now it does not count because it's on pc.
Doesn't count because most of XB's non Halo/Gears/Forza exclusives are available on PC. FFVII was exclusive on PS1/PC, but most PS1/PS2/PS3 exclusives were only available on PS consoles.

Yes so you agree that microsoft destroying the monopoly sony had in the gaming industry was a good thing because it forced them to focus on first party games.
Competition makes better products. Yes I agree

I have high hopes for all of the consoles in general but make no mistake sony will rip you off just as quick as microsoft and so will nintendo. None of them are different in that regard.
Are you sure? Sony doesn't have a history of ripping people off. Even now, while some PS4 games require PS+ for online, many big games don't (e.g. Elder Scrolls Online and Destiny). Nintendo is much the same, you can used a Gamecube Power Adaptor on a NES and you can still order replacement parts for any Nintendo console.

And game quality has always been subjective in my instance the only ps4 exlcusive I have is infamous while I have killer instinct, forza 5, and ryse for xbox one so in my case xbox is ahead.
That's true, but Ryse is a 6/10 game on metacritic....It also furthur annoys me because it was suppose to be a 360 game. Why did MS abandon the 360 so fast? I mean PS3 still got GT6, TLoU, Beyond: Two Souls + 5 or 6 JRPG's.

I agree you may start to see some of the smaller japanese titles be exclusive but it won't be 8 to 10 since japan cares mostly about portables now and the japanese games that are most popular in the west final fantasy, metal gear solid, resident evil etc will always be multi platform for this generation.
Yea, but does this make smaller games like Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, the whole Tales of series, Drakengard, etc not important? I know I bought my 360 when it was getting all the JRPG support it saw in 2007-2009, I'm sure many people like me will do the same for PS4.

It's just Microsoft can't pay publishers to stay exclusive anymore. That's one of the biggest reasons the 360 stopped seeing so many exclusives after 2009. I don't see Microsoft expanding their 1st party lineup very much, I see them being very rigid (like Nintendo).

Sony on the other hand well Naughty Dog just made TLoU, Guerilla Games (Killzone) are already working on a new IP, Santa Monica (God of War) are introducing The Order, Evolution Studios (Motorstorm) is making Drive Club, etc....it's pretty much a guarentee that the PS4 will offer more then just sequels (although a GT7 would be more then appreciated).

Towards the end of last generation there were plenty of reports of Microsoft buying up and creating new studios what are they going to be doing with all the new staff if not making new game ips?

Nintendo gets a lot of flack for not expanding their 1st party lineup very much but they do create plenty of new ip's just off the top of my head some new ips for the wii were wii sports, xenoblade, pandora's tower, dynamic slash, the last story (nintendo owns the ip) etc.  The problem is most people don't buy the games and then they complain that nintendo just release mario, metroid, and zelda.

You leave out before Naughty Dog released TLou they made 3 Uncharted games so in year 7 of the ps3 they finally released something new.  Before that they developed 4 crash bandicoot games for the ps1.  After spending the entire ps2, psp and ps3 generation focused on killzone Guerilla Games is finally making something new for ps4.  The same goes with Santa Monica after spending the entire ps2, psp and ps3 generation making God of War they are finally making something new.

So the trend seems to be that whatever new ip's sony introduce at the beginning of the gen are the same titles that we will see for most or the entire generation from those developers.  So we are going to see The Order 1-3, Drive Club 1-3, TLou Remaster and 2, Uncharted 4-6 etc based on their previous history.

GT7 is definitely going to happen since GT is their billion dollar ip and millions will be buy it when it's released myself included.  Yes Sony does a good job of creating new Ips and they may be the best at it but they aren't way above the other companies in this regard.