mornelithe said:
sc94597 said:
mornelithe said:
sc94597 said:
mornelithe said:
sc94597 said:
withdreday said:
Only because it's not hot outside in chicago yet. Conceled carry doesn't effect street gangs, so sadly it will rise back up.
The only way to stop it is to take all guns away, but it's 'merica, so that will never happen.
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Actually the only way to reduce crime is to decriminalize all illegal drugs so that cartels don't have a monopoly on their sales, and so that the price of drugs decreases, allowing for more competition in the market. Drug prohibition is responsible for the majority of the violent crime in the United States. We need to target the incentives for violence rather than the means to enact it (there will always be some way to kill.)
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Not that I care either way, really, I don't. But, banning firearms seems to have had a sustained impact on lowering the murder rate in Australia.
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Yes, but all other violent crime went up.
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Ok...but people are still alive? Right? Far easier to heal/recover from a violent crime, than death.
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It depends. Would you rather have five thousand persons raped or robbed so that one person is not murdered(not saying those are the actual statistics, but to make a point.)
Here are your government statistics. Murders seemed negligible before and after 1997 (not even registered on the chart.) Assault seems to be increasing steadily, while everything else is held constant.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
Interestingly though your claim that the gun control led to fewer homicides is disputed by your government.
"The homicide rate was 1.9 per 100,000 in 1996 (which includes the 35 victims of the Port Arthur massacre) and was at its highest in 1999, at 2.0 per 100,000. In 2007, the rate was 1.3 per 100,000, the lowest recorded (since 1996)."
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Yeah...my Government claims allot of things that are patently false.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/
The American Government also considers Marijuana to be on par with heroin and ecstacy. Long story short, you can discover more truth on your own than listening to anyone in the halls of power in the American Government.
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Oh I only cited your government because it had a bias toward your position (being the ones who proposed the idea that returning guns will lead to fewer homicides.) Nevertheless, I don't trust government statistics myself, being an anti-statist and all.
Anyway, the source you linked cites the exact same source. Did you read your link? The only difference is that your link distorts the truth,
" but has since declined to the lowest number on record in 2007, the most recent year for which official figures are available."
"The homicide rate was 1.9 per 100,000 in 1996 (which includes the 35 victims of the Port Arthur massacre) and was at its highest in 1999, at 2.0 per 100,000. In 2007, the rate was 1.3 per 100,000, the lowest recorded (since 1996). "
Oh and then your link goes on to cite this,
http://www.ssaa.org.au/capital-news/2008/2008-09-04_melbourne-uni-paper-Aust-gun-buyback.pdf
