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Normchacho said:
Imaginedvl said:
Normchacho said:
didn't they just get upgraded? Stock is going up, PS4 is selling better than expected. The outlook is actually better than it has been in a number of years. People just see one number and think that's the whole story.

I believe it is the opposite, you see their stock going up and you believe that's the whole story.

What about all the money they lost during the past few months/years and what about the next quarter? This one was bad even with the launch of the PS4, imagine the next one... The stock went up because they announced their intention of selling their PC division, not because of the PS4... And it is just another tentative from Sony to stop bleeding money; it is too early to say if things are going to be better.


I'm afraid the shareholders and financial analysts are on my side here. Stocks are up despite the bad numbers because shareholder confidence is up and like I said they were just upgraded to "buy" status by Jefferies. 

You're mistaking the $1.1 B loss for quarterly numbers. That numbers is the yearly forcast and it was changed to that due to the costs of getting rid of the PC division as well as restructuring the TV division. They posted a profit for Q3.

I do not believe you understand what we are talking about here... The shareholders and financial analysts are not on anyone's side, they believe that Sony is going to lose less money based on their plan to get ride of their TV divions (and not because of the PS4 sales like you said, nothing to do with that).

All that being said, the point is: how many money investors LOST during the past year (not the results). Just Google and look at Sony' stock history... I mean it is simple maths, you can twist those numbers in any way you want it will not change the reality. That's the "whole" picture. Go speak with all those people who lost money over Sony's mess...

Also, 1.1b loss IS 1.1b LOSS, no matter how you look at them, nothing is positive about that, nothing... Even without taking into consideration 5000 people losing their job, Sony's current debt, etc...