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gum said:

For AC I'm speaking about handheld games obviously because this game is designed for this kind of hardware and I doubt anyone question the fact it is a very casual oriented game. Then the success of the 3DS version as well as the success of TC proves that despite smartphones casual can still care about this kind of games and buy consoles to play them. It doesn't matter that BT or ND didn't sell well: the fact that casual games like that manage to do well prove my point that you can't conclude that casual gamers don't care any more about gaming systems and proves that they are ok to buy new iterrations of games they liked in the past.

I'm not the one who make big claims, remind you, quite the oppoiste in fact: I question the fact that many seem to be totally sure that WS and WF won't be big sellers. I'm the one who say that maybe they will be right, perhaps, but to be that sure they have to give very compelling arguments and I just don't see any. And when you say "All the signs we're seeing at the moment though, make it seem highly unlikely." I'm sorry but I still don't see the signs you are talking about. Just assumptions that casual gamers won't by new iterrations of games they liked despite the fact that the same kind of people do that very often to play the new mario, mario kart, AC... games.


@ bold, what?  It was designed for the N64.  The game released first on the N64; before re-releasing on the Gamecube.  It was designed for home consoles; but it found a home on handhelds.  And again, I still don't see how it adds any relevance to your argument.  Animal Crossing is succeeding on the 3DS at the moment, absolutely - but the 3DS isn't the Wii-U, not by a long stretch.

 

@ underlined, see the bit in italics.  The signs we're talking about are that similar IP's that were brand new and designed around the new hardware of the DS failed to gain any traction when getting new iterations on new hardware.  It's not conclusive evidence by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a sign, that you seem to be choosing to ignore (you kind of contradict yourself in that sentence "it doesn't matter if BT or ND didn't sell well"; except it does matter if we're trying to analyse a similar phenomenom happening from Wii -> Wii-U).  

 

We make assumptions based on the evidence we have because that's all we have to go off for the time being.  You seem to add a lot more weight to Animal Crossing doing well on 3DS than Brain Training/Nintendogs doing poorly, and that's fine.  Myself, and plenty of other people in this thread, interpret the evidence the other way around.  Only time will tell what really happens, but I really can't believe that you "don't see the signs" when they've been listed by multiple people already in this thread.  They're definitely there; but whether or not they turn out to be actual signs or merely anomalies remains to be seen.