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fillet on 14 April 2013
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Osc89 said:
fillet said:
Completely disagree.

The emotional is definitely in a sad AND thrilling way, but primarily sad. The music, the characters and the despair and mystery all add to it and not in the "action" way either.

If you play all the games as they are intended, they follow on and it's simply sublime in it's balance between a bit of action and enough story moving forward as things unfold.

In fact, as my previous post outline - I'm outright horrified at the games people have listed here as they are clearly games where the action and cinematic atmosphere has overwhelmed the person with hardly any proper "emotion" to speak of.

If people are listing Heavy Rain on their top list they are obviously in their teens still or haven't played any good games from the 90s at all or even the early 2000s, sure games like that are good and they pull on the emotional senses somewhat, but mostly it's just cinematic superficial stuff. There's no real "oh nooooooooo" moment in a more restrained way.

That or they're just all action junkies who dare I say it...don't know what real emotions are (shadow of the colossus!!!! Uncharted!!! FarCry 3!!!....it's just sad to even read)

Branch out people, this isn't about taste you really can't have expeirneced emotional games if that's the best you can list!

Really? You don't see emotion in Heavy Rain? You experience the death of a drowning child as you attempt to save him, talk to and play as parents who have lost their children and assist a woman after an attempted suicide as well as other moving scenes. It is all very honestly portrayed, primarily in dialogue, which isn't exactly cinematic. Just because a game has violence and cinematic sequences doesn't mean it can't have emotional impact as well. And as for Shadow of the Colossus, an action game?! You must have mistaken it for another game, or you haven't played it. Read some of this to understand how it affects others. I wouldn't ridicule the choices of others like that, just because you haven't been able to look past the superficial. If the "action and cinematic atmosphere" have overwhelmed you to the point where you haven't been able to experience the deeper moments then I feel bad for you, and it probably means you'll be stuck playing those same 90s games.

"There are only two games I consider masterpieces: Ico and Shadow of the Colossus." - Guillermo Del Toro


I do see emotion in Heavy Rain, but then I've seen that same emotion in Fahrenheit which at it's time wasn't seen as anything that emotional but it surpasses Heavy Rain on that level by a country mile, because the emotion in Fahrenheit will show you just how much Heavy Rain relies on the cinematic side to push across the emotional stuff.

I'm not stuck in the 90s by any means it just seems the games most are listing aren't really heavy hitters in the emotional department.

Sure SoTC has the elements of being on a top list but it's missing much more than most other games that most people would relate to.

Ironically enough, imo it's not that I haven't played late 2000s games that is the problem (to which I have plenty), it's that people don't know what they're missing out. There's plenty of PS1 JRPGs that beat the pants off anything churned out the last few years for pulling on heart strings.

Then there's the case of members listing some old games but likely didn't enjoy the game for those bits because they were too young and you can tell because the other games they list couldn't possibly be anywhere near a top list. FFX for example is a very emotional game, even if the translation (I suspect) loses some of that and adds a lot of forced emotion, but the overall effect is passed off brilliantly taking everything into account.

You know they likely skipped all the scense and so forth, not saying I'm like 100% right here and sure it's arrogant of me to say it maybe but that doesn't make it not true!

Maybe I'm completly wrong, just an opinion, I'm heavily JRPG slanted which generally has an emotional story regardless of quality that hooks you in eventually. Action games certainly have to do more to earn that respect from me, and they usually fail in this area...but then JRPGs usually fail at action so it's a not exactly a condemnation...

Rant over.