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JazzB1987 on 01 June 2012
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rocketpig said:
JazzB1987 said:

What IF the federal government etc. is/are the bad guys? If a state governor/whatever has the chance to stop arbitrary control freak laws that totally act against the constitution then the governor should be able to do it.

And about the homosexuality example:
Seriously if a state and most of its citizens/voters dont want homo sexuality its their damn right to make it illegal. Noone is forcing anybody to stay in the state. IF you force people in another state with another mentality to comply with your federal rules thats WRONG.
The more levels of government exist the better because the federal government in any country has no idea what the citizens in a state want and no idea whats best because they can not relate to the people in the state. Hell even the state government has no idea what the state citizens want sometimes so how should the federal government know?

IMHO the federal government should only be able to "suggest" laws and should be given the chance to convice the states. And the states should decide on their own if they accept it or not.

(I mean like in stock exchange the one with more than 50% wins. The federal government has like 40% of the "decision power" and the states have 60%. If the law of the federal government is good and convinces enough of the state government the state government can accept the federal law. If the federal government comes up with stupid laws then.... well HAHA better luck next time)

Then there is absolutely no point in remaining The United States of America. Let's just break it up into 50 separate countries.

Whether you like it or not, The Constitution is the highest law in the land. No state is allowed to violate its laws under any circumstances. Ron Paul is seeking a way to circumvent that, despite the fact that he fancies himself a Constitutionalist.

You didn't really think this through, did you? Your "system" would require for the entire government to be scrapped along with the Constitution, which is one of the most successful governing documents written by man. It's over 225 years old and has been amended only 17 times. That's insane and speaks to the power of the document. Not to mention that we already tried your idea. It failed so miserably that it almost destroyed the country before it even got going. Thankfully, the document you seem to think is trash, the Constitution, was written and it basically saved the United States from fracturing into oblivion. I might be going out on a limg here but somehow, I doubt you even know about the Articles of Confederation...

WRONG. You need to be a big country  (USA) to have influence in the world. You have to team up to do something like having a strong economy etc.. Try to grow vegetables in manhatten please. See?   Thats the point of the USA. Not  I SAY YOU DO!.  Thats also why the european union was established. Because 1000000 small countries cannot compete with the Russian Federation or the United States etc.

The only laws that should be forced to be complied with  are laws that TOTALLY concern the whole united states  like  what kind of pesticides are allowd to grow food that is sold in the whole country ETC.  What pesticides are allowed to be used to sell food in the state of its origin is a matter of the STATE not FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.  Do you finally see what i mean?



To bad the government is violating the rules of the constitution/bill of rights etc but  you seem to only see what you want to see so there is no point in talking about this topic anymore.