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Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
Allfreedom99 said:
NinjaguyDan said:

The Republicans are the champions of freedom?

The freedom to marry who you want?

The freedom to use a safe, natural substance, either medicinally or recreationally?

The freedom for a woman to make her own reproductive decisions?

 

Or are you trying to feed me some bullshit?

By that last statement if you mean contraceptives , I have not heard any elected republican official try to ban contraceptives. That is a ridiculous argument ginned up by leftists to try to make it sound like elected officials on the right wants to ban contraceptives. I have never seen them advocating for that.

If by that statement you are also meaning abortion then I have a question for you:  When does that life inside the mothers womb become a human?


Personhood is not a scientific thing, nobody can say that it scientifically occurs at a definite point. The right wing does want to limit access to reproductive health services - Romney just said that as president he would abolish planned parenthood entirely. He's the most moderate of the Republican candidates.

That's not really true.

Sicence can tell you exactly when personhood happens.  So long as  you have a definition of personhood.

Really, based on that abortion can happen between never, and up to the age of two.

Really abortion is a much more interesting issue then the banal arguements that keep reappearing... conected to a lot of interesting issues.

As it is, most people on both sides have some huge contradictions in their stances because they don't put proper thought into it.

 

As for planned parenthood.  That seems more about cutting back on government services that don't pay for needs.

What I'm saying is that there  is no scientific definition of personhood.