Twas the Night Before Christmas-Mafia Round 35

[Final-Fan]

Linkzmax said:

Silver-Tiger said:

Vengeful as in:

"A Vengeful player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die." from mafiascum.net.

The role came to my mind because I had the same role last round.

That's what I figured you meant by it, but I wanted to be sure.

Your "thoughts" and vote simply don't add up. You talk about his absense, yet I feel like others weren't very present during the time either.(probably myself included) I would have to do postals to check that, and I don't like them much anymore nor do I have the time. Whether true or not, it was a very weak reason. As for the introduction, you never explained pre or post-modkill what made it so scummy. Heph is the only one I remember that addressed it and said he wouldn't expect it from mafia, but possibly third-party. So another strike for that. Then you say "I hope for you that you're scum", which makes no sense at all.

Next you show no hesitance at lynching MJD if you actually thought he was Vengeful Mafia. There's no sense of 'wait, this is exactly what MJD wants', thus I'm left thinking it was an artificial thought. Also, with all the concern you present at possibly losing a townie, you show none for the possibility of giving mafia two choices of who they pick off.(Vengeful + Night Kill)

Finally, you were convinced that he's scum yet still straddled with uncertainty when you said he should ask for replacement. And later you reaffirm that you  were certain he was scum. The problem is you state you didn't want to lynch him, but pressure him. Caught scum knows they're dead to rights and so they don't give away anything but WIFOM,(link for anyone unfamiliar) so voting with insistence that he's certain scum is exactly what you shouldn't have done.

I was going to vote you last night, but I didn't get to finish my reread before sleep beckoned. Nothing since then has made me believe anyone else is more likely scum then you though. So without further ado

Vote: Silver-Tiger

You make a fairly good case against ST based on his "I'm certain he's scum, but let's get a mod replacement."  But you also make a point I disagree with completely. 

"There's no sense of 'wait, this is exactly what MJD wants'..."  I know lynching a Vengeful Mafia would mean one of us dies, but what the hell else are we supposed to do?  Ask them to pretty please commit suicide?  Pray for a vigilante?  One-for-one is a good trade if you ask me, especially as a Day One lynch. 

As for ST's saying he was hoping the pressure would make Marcus betray fellow mafia, it's true no good mafia player would do that, but we've seen counterexamples and he wasn't exactly in top form so it would have been reasonable to hope for a slip IMO. 

I'm not convinced I should vote ST, even instead of not voting anybody.  It is only Day One after all.