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spurgeonryan said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=133558&page=1

This not a joke thread. I truly would like to see if I have been actually wrong all these years believing in God.

Could it be that God just did his miracles and magic in a scientific way? Maybe 7 days to him was 7 million years and he made us evolve in that time? Then the Bible just starts off when Man was able to talk and think. Maybe the Plagues can be explained rationally and so can the flood.

So what proof is there that this was not the case? That there really is no God, and we all just came from anti-matter and matter exploding, slime, fish, monkeys, Adam, Me.

Your fundamental flaw is that God and evolution are incompatible. The literalist interpretation of the Bible and evolution are incompatible, but that's got nothing to do with God.

As the Christian scholar George Townshend observes: the Bible is all about the evolution of human civilisation. Given the spiritual/human civilisation subjects in the Bible are a story of evolution, then it follows that any statements about how the universe came into being in the Bible would actually support the concept of physical/biological evolution. The mistake people make is to interpret passages which tell spiritual truths as telling physical truths. If Genesis really is a story about the origins of the universe, then it's told from the perspective of an adult trying to explain evolution to a 2-year old. Just think about the scientific knowledge that existed at the time Genesis was written (2000BC (or earlier)).

Fundamentally you cannot prove God does not exist by proving the truth of evolution. I absolutely subscribe the theory of evolution. Evolution IS how the universe works. I also believe in God. My view is that God is not concerned with the minutae of how the universe runs. What God is concerned with is the evolution of human civilistation (and that of other civilisations in the universe). And make no mistake, I think God wants human civilisation to evolve. And evolution means (as we see parallelled in biology) sometimes great progress and other times major crises. 2 steps forward one step back is still forward progress.



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