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CGI-Quality said:
sales2099 said:

The AAA vs AA status hasnt done much to penetrate the brand name, but is a element for debate amongst gamers on say...a internet forum. Whats better vs what the market thinks is better is two seperate things. On paper, Forza is now the better overall package. In practise, the real world still has GT in their minds due to the series when it was at its peak in the ps1/ps2 days. 

But again, even the most die hard GT fans will begin to be pissed off at namely the release time frames. 

2 years per AAA Forza vs 5 years for AA Gt game. 

At some point the fans are going to say enough is enough. GT is a great game but at what cost. We dont live forever. 5 years is a long time between releases. At least Turn 10 recognizes the limited life span of human beings :P ........and makes a overall better package at the same time. 

Forza 3 allready dethroned GT5.........Forza 4 should cement that theory even further....cause once again, Polphany Digital takes their sweet time. Too sweet. 

Forza 3 hasn't dethroned anything. Those scores haven't changed anything, as GT fans still picked up the game and Forza 3 didn't gain any significant fanbase over it's 92 Meta score vs GT5's 84. Couple that with the fact that most reviews still say GT5 is better at driving simulation than Forza and your words sound even further out of tune. Both are after sim fans and many more people continue to stick with GT.

Lastly, saying "at some point" is, again, an assumption (what if). Debating on that is pointless. Whether or not GT fans get tired of waiting (even though GT5 is the first in the series to take 5 years) remains to be seen. If GT5 is anything to go by, things don't seem to be changing in any big way (save for maybe Japan, where things seem to be changing for many franchises).

Regardless, if you've got something to the contrary outside of wild assumptions and theories, I'm all ears.


Huh.....a PS3 guy playing the sales card. Its truly rare to see after PS3 being 3rd place and sales of Halo and Gears of War titles making the sales of any major ps3 exclusive embarrassing by comparison. You sir, are a dying remnant of the ps2 era where it was common for sony fans to play the sales card :)

Its not about real world consumer opinion where Forza dethroned GT......its the on-paper objective quality aspect. Again....better driving sim....yet an inferior overall package. Thats my point: Forza is known at least to gamers that play both franchises as a better overall package. Forza dethroned GT.

Im also surprised you seem content with the embarrassing ratio of Forza releases to GT release time frames. Add to that Forza games just simply have more premium cars, online modes, tracks, customization options, etc. 

I really dont get GT fans. The franchise factually now releases 1 game for every 2 Forzas (3 Forzas come this october!). The game is now a AA franchise for clearly neglecting the VIDEO GAME aspect of the driving simulator.....because no matter how you slice it these are video games. 

And the only defence you can really say is that its a better sim (yet completely ignoring the entire package) the real world still buys GT more. Sales. From a sony fan. In this gen. Now ive seen everything :)



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