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daroamer on 17 June 2011
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CGI-Quality said:
daroamer said:
CGI-Quality said:

So you don't disagree with the games I mentioned? Excellent, no double standards expected then.

On this end, however, Metacritic doesn't prove any of that to me (and it doesn't for millions and millions of other people either, despite the vice versa, meaning it will always be subjective).

For the record, I've yet to say that: "I'm right because it's my opinion". I said disagree with the idea that Metacritic proves anything without a doubt, which doesn't mean either side is "wrong". It means I contrast with that viewpoint. Simple.

"Then what metric would you like to use to compare games?"

"My own experience."

For the record none of the games you mentioned are direct competitors in the same way Forza and GT are.  Heavy Rain and Alan Wake are not similar in any capacity.  Why compare them?

HEAVY RAIN and Alan Wake were compared all the way up to their releases,. Interesting how they now have nothing to compare.  To huumor you, I also mentioned Gears & Uncharted (which are very much comparable). If what you say is true, you conclude that Uncharted is better than Gears.

To conclude, no, Metacritic doesn't dtermine if Forza is better than GT or vice versa, at least not in my view. If that's the case, the people who proclaimed that Gears of War was better than Uncharted because it sold more (despite Uncharted's higher Meta) should be people you heavily disagree with, yes? Again, you must agree that Uncharted is better than Gears, because if not, you go against your very own argument in one fell swoop.

Since I don't see you letting up, while I'm certainly not moved (and this is getting off-topic), I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Just keep that last sentence in mind.


Are you talking Uncharted or Uncharted 2?  Uncharted 2 is a better game than either Gears, absolutely.  Uncharted 1 only got an 88 meta, while GoW got 94 and GoW2 got 93.

Having said that, I don't think they are comparable at all.  Uncharted is closer to something like Tomb Raider.  I don't see it GoW having platforming elements.  I think a better comparison for GoW on the PS3 would be something like Killzone or Resistance.

Also, I never said metacritic was the end all be all of measuring one game against another, but it is ONE way of comparing them.  U2 and GoW have very similar metascores (if you were to compare them) whereas Forza 3 scores a 92 vs 84 for GT5.  I would say the difference between 97 and 93 isn't as great as 92 vs 84.  I asked you what metric you would use to compare games when you take out reviews as a measurment and your answer was your experience.  That's a completely subjective argument and one that neither side will ever win so it's pointless.  That was my point.