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Kasz216 on 06 January 2008
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joora said:
Kasz216 said:
joora said:
Grey Acumen said:
joora said:
 

 

The idea that it is so easy for a person in your community to reach a limit of that nature makes me very concerned for completely different issues in your community than gun ownership.

 


Well, my community/country hasn't got the issue of large number of murders. Infact, even bare handed brawls are very rare here. In the first post i saw how you wanted to spin this around. Besides, certain amount of people do own a firearm here(some illegaly, some trough hardly acquired license). The rate of illegal weapon possesion isn't even that small, because of the war we went trought some 15 years ago.

Still, there aren't many firearm murders here. Something in the lines of 15-30 per year (whole country). That said, i would like to conclude that those who have illegal/legal possesion of firearms here know how to (not) use em. But i don't think that it would be wise to give the ability of weapon possesion to the whole community.

So your argument fails in multiple ways.


So there are a ton of guns in your country yet you have little gun crime... yet you blame guns for violent crime... and his arguement fails in many ways? Come again?


I don't blame guns for violent crime, i blame people wh use them. But, if you take guns from those people, they won't have the tools that makes it easyer to commit crime.

 

An there are guns in my country, but i didn't say there is lots of them. No where near america atleast. But, if you want to go with that argument, take Canada. They have loads of guns, yet nowhere near firearm crimes compared to US. So it's obvious that certain portion US citizens can't/don't use guns responsibly, so best solution would be taking the guns from them.

So your murder rate is higher without many guns. So should they take the knives away from people in your country, since they can't handle those responsibly?

Felons and people with mental problems alren't aloud to own guns. And most gun crimes are committed by ILLEGAL guns. In other words, guns that would still be here no matter how harsh the gun laws were.

Very few people comit crimes with real guns, as you should know by CSI and Law and Order and the rest... bullets can be traced to a gun exactly.  They can tell the model of gun and even which gun in particular fired it.  To get away with a gun crime in the US is much harder then to get away with any other sort of murder.