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Picko said:
Andir said:
And just because there are more guns does not mean there will be more violence. You should also be aware that the US has a very diverse culture with people from all nationalities, religious beliefs, and backgrounds living next to each other. People disagree, and some take it too far.

I will only state this once, as I firmly believe it. More people owning guns (responsibly) can only mean less crime as criminals are less likely to walk into a store and rob it if there is the potential that 15 people in the store have guns. Contest it if you like, but there's a quote that fits this idea to a tee:

"You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." - Yamamoto http://www.skylighters.org/quotations/quots6.html

Firstly, most countries are highly diverse. The US is neither exceptional nor unusual in this regard.

Secondly, the data appears to always suggests otherwise. The more weapons available the more crime, all else equal. The US gun laws are undeniably irresponsible and are fundamentally an artefact of a less civilised time.

 

 


You and I seem to be looking at differnt data then. Or one of us doesn't know how to correctly inturpret data.

The fact that some areas with a lot of crime have a lot of guns is a false correlation. Both crime and Gun ownership are caused by other factors. Many small towns have a near 100% gun ownership yet haven't had a violent crime in decades.

In fact, in such studies, when they've introduced more guns into towns violent crime has DECREASED.


Places where there are a lot of guns have higher crime? Well gee what would you expect. Who's more likely to own a gun for their own saftey. Someone who lives in a poor area of NY. Or someone who live in a middle class suburb like me that hasn't seen a home invasion for as long as I've lived here.

That's like saying there are a lot of poor people living in goverment housing. Therefore if we get rid of government housing there won't be any poor.

Note this last plan did not work out well for Zimbabwe.