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AussieGecko said:

@Smashchu2


Really dude you are getting old. All I can see what you are doing is you are simply trying to upgrade your grammar to seem professional.

What's wrong with sounding professional?

Prove once just once that Microsoft (main) investors have told MS to back out of XBOX. I doubt you will find many sources from the things that you create in your head.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_24/b4182036703891.htm

Easily found it in Google.

Also I can pretty much guarantee you that Blu-ray wouldn't have won without the Blu-Ray being in the PS3. Game consoles aren't consoles anymore they are home entertainment  systems.And as has been stated MS is now making serious money with Xbox Live. The fact that the Windows 7 Phones have direct Xbox Live support and perhaps down the road added Xbox to phone games (if you want me to find a source I will).

Won what? Some silly little format war that ment nothing as Blu-Ray is only now just being adopted as people can actually get the players and TVs to run them. It would have happened PS3 or not. But let's talk about Microsoft's Profits

As of June 30, the Xbox division on its own made Microsoft $426 million in operating profits, and $8.1 billion in total sales. According to the company's 4th quarter report, those numbers are up 34% from the year before, when it lost the company nearly $2 billion. Of course, the Entertainment and Devices division (which houses the Xbox team) as a whole still ended up losing $188 million for the year. Here

Look at the numbers. First, 2008 was it's first profitable year (or where it had the first profitable quarter). The quarter the year prior had a loss greater than it's income. The difference was a loss of 1.574 billion dollars. And remember that thje division was around for ~7 years prior. They had losses for 7 years. But it's Ok because they are making serious profits.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/23/microsofts-profits-jump-in-q3/

Yesterday, Microsoft announced its Q3 2010 earnings, and we’re pleased to report things went well for the Redmond, WA company. Riding the success of Windows 7, Microsoft beat analysts expectations with $14.5 billion in revenue and a net income of $4.01 billion or $0.45 per share. As previously mentioned, Windows 7 was a smash hit helping Windows revenue climb 28%. Some 10% of PCs world-wide are now running Windows 7. Sales of the Xbox 360 helped the Entertainment Division’s revenue increase to $165 million. The one major downfall for Microsoft was Bing, as search engine lost the company a hefty $713 million.

Profit for the division was 165 million, only growing a small bit from back in 2008. Microsoft made far more money on Windows (thus, the investors complaint). Let me put it this way: Kinect's advertising expense alone will be larger that the profits from two quarters 2008 and 2010. Let's not forget the company has lost far more than that.

Also the way you are talking about Kinect doesn't seem like an opinion. It almost seems you are trying to present your opinion as fact considering you use "I think" in some of your sentences yet not when you mention Sony and Microsoft game consoles about to get the arse. Also Kinect horribly failing and burning.

No opinion here. Only eviendce.

But here is the thing people: how long do you think these companies can accept these losses before they stop it. It's either that or they go belly up. People here are not being realistic. The XBox line has been a failure from them and only now is it scraping up some profits to cover up the atronomical losses it has. Microsoft is spending 500 million dollars on advertising. On a product we know doesn't work (you'd have to be living under a rock to not know that). This is the end of the divison. Expect a huge mess after this.

To all Kinect Naysayers: Play the full version with an open mind, not one you have tried in of the showings. I don't know how Kinect will do but I do know that it is trying something different. Something different might work and might fail. Why must you take so much glee in possibly failing.

No one is taking "glee," in it, we are looking at how it actually is. Even in a recent BBC report on it, it had very noticable lag. It is a month away from launching. And since Microsoft is spending 500 million on it, it's expected to be a facade.

Again, time converts more than reason. People don't want to admit that Kinect is going to fail and trying to cover their ears. Given, they are all fans so it makes sense. But it's OK, Sega fans will feel your pain.