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thelifatree said:

eh, you guys have been arguing over the same thing. forver.

I mean, If you thought Square getting in the way of Matsuno hurt Final Fantasy XII, then I don't know why you'd want another one that way. Square would probably just get in the way again. (If this actually happened. ofcourse his bosses are always going to question if what matsuno was doing is correct for profitibility etc... its Square's Biggest franchise that's their job").

And if you thought FFXII was good, then I don't see why 13 is that big of deal, because it was made by the Final Fantasy X team, which XIII is similar to Final Fantasy X (My favorite final fantasy) so it makes sense. It wasn't made by Ito or anything.  I mean FF8 wasn't made by the people that made FF9. It's not like this series has ever really followed a pattern, ever.

I mean, if I wanted to be nonsensical, like some of the arguments above (not mentioning who)... I could argue that Matsuno hurt Final Fantasy... because Ito the co-director from the start... (The one that replaced matsuno was hiroshi minagawa not Ito). And Ito's 2 Previous Final Fantasy's was co-FF6, and FF9... and he was the triple triad director in FF8... zomg best minigame ever :D, I liked all of those more than 12. But that isn't accounting for the whole situation.

I'd prefer Matsuno works on non-final fantasy projects with or w/o square, because imo they were a lot better than his FF projects... anyways, such as vagrant story, and the original tactics ogre. With Final Fantasy, he has to put imo unecessary references to past FF titles when his universe does not need it.

yeah your right, we argue about this too much, we should just be glad their making more of them, hopefully Matsuno will return to making great games one day!