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FaRmLaNd on 03 August 2010
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NanakiXI said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I can't think of any times in history an organised group of people have commited mass muder and forced de-conversion in the name of having no belief in a deity...

You'd have to throw in other extreme systems like totalitarian communism or something to find examples of the organised destruction of the religious by atheists.


I would argue that all children are negatively affected by the church because in my opinion teaching belief in something without evidence (ie faith) is damaging and dangerous. Especially in a world thats derived from the scientific method.


That's because every nation, country or whatever does have something.

Even Christians of all sorts can't get along with other Christians.

So if we all beleived nothing which is impossible btw then we would still fight about anything else. I mean if a country beleived green should be their color and no other nation could use it then there would be a war on that.

Look at Mexico and the drug wars. No religion there at least not a main point. It's all about drugs and who gets to use/sell and who doesn't.  Why is the U.S. in the Middle East. Oil or Weopons of mass destruction. Those are not beleifs but we still fight. Then again the U.S. also likes to get into everones business although the U.S. doesn't beleive in any one religion or at least letting any religion have influence on Government.

Even though there are some strong previous religious beleifs instilled in the US government they were kept as a base to support the freedom and rights of everyone. I mean I hope I didn't learn about the Serperation of Church and State for no reason at all.

Wars are fought over territories and power. Over goods and grudges.

Here are non-religios wars.

100 Years War
30 Years War
Wars of the Roses
The battles of Genghis Khan
Tamerlane's invasions of China and India
The French and Indian War
The American Revolution
The French Revolution
The War of 1812
The Napoleonic Wars
The War for Texas Independence
The Mexican Revolution
The Mexican War
The War between the States
The Crimean War
The Boer Wars
The Spanish-American War
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Desert Storm
Iraqi Freedom
Battle of Hastings
The list is endless.

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No way!

Whoever said atheists believe in nothing? They simply reject that gods exist based on the lack of evidence. They can believe in all sorts of things. The focus as always should be on eliminating extreme dogmas and ideologies. My point wasn't that wars aren't fought, I'm just at a loss to find a war where atheists forced atheism onto other people without them using an extreme ideology such as more extreme forms of communism for example. Of course wars are fought, I was explicitly talking about religious wars or anti-religious wars. Since atheism is simply the lack of belief in something you'd be hard pressed to fight a war over it. Though I'm not saying its impossible.