GT5 gets stunning leaked replay footage!

[Reasonable]

libellule said:

Reasonable said:
Looks pretty good. I never get why people would want 3D trees over 2D trees though. It's a driving sim. The second you add more off-track detail you're going to pay for it elsewhere whether the car models, number of cars, or other options (on console that is).

First and foremost I want the cars, lighting, handling and everything to do with the driving to excel. Everything else is much less important IMO.

Note this isn't a knock at Forza as such. It's a very good game. My view is simply Forza would be even better with 2D trees and say more cars or whatever else they could add (that affects driving and the look of the cars) if they dropped some of the detail.

even if I respect you and I agree with you

I do not understand WHY you feel important to justify yourself mentionning FM3 as if you were fearing to hurt a specific community ...

I only mentioned it to make clear I was talking in general about any game - not just Forza (i.e. it's a pre-emtive defense).  I've found if you just go:

"in a driving game I think the cars, phyics, etc. is more important than track detail"

360/Forza fans go "you're attacking Froza because it has 3D trees" etc etc.

I feel I shouldn't have to mention Forza but I've found if I do it does seem to prevent those remarks appearing.

But I agree it's a tough call and I always hesitate to mention it and I think in general you shouldn't need to put in pre-emptive defenses.

The problem is (without getting too off topic) that some titles/genres are now defined as PS3 vs 360 in some people's eyes (GT5 and Forza 3 being one of the biggest offenders) which makes it hard to comment from a driving title genre seperate from consoles without getting flamed by one side or the other.

For me a driving sim is about the driving - the background is nice for context and setting but unimportant overall vs the driving.  Therefore my view is that it's always better to reduce background/track detail if it allows an increase physics, handling, number of cars, AI etc instead.  This is my view whether the title is on PC, PS3, 360 or whatever.

An exception, of sorts, is a more arcade driving title - there background detail may be more important, particularly if a lot of the fun is allowing you to smash through it!

So don't worry - I didn't try my first stealth Troll!  Honest!